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  •  He could have... (none)
    been bumped up to E-3 without too much problem, but getting to E-4 (Lance Corporal) is a little trickier.  Depends not only on time in service and time in grade, but on his Commander's discretion.  He could have entered up to E-2 on prior credit, but above that probably wouldn't happen.

    Anyone who goes in generates a paper trail.  My thinking is that he went to basic, and failed out on a medical, meaning he wasn't failed for breaking any rules - just couldn't hack it.  Boot isn't for everyone, so giving it a try and failing out can be forgiven - at least the effort was made, no matter how pitiful it was (sorry).

    I realize this is being more generous than he would give if positions were switched (I'm on top? Sorry, bad taste, and I don't roll that way...but couldn't resist the joke).

    Gut feeling is that he never served, but saw that after 9-11 the military and firemen (firepersons? firepeople? Oh, right - Firefighters! Been an expat too long) were riding high and decided to jump on the band wangon.

    If so, what a slug.  He should return to the rock he slimed from under before the sun/salt gets him.

    "Every day, in every way, I think I'm going to vomit."

    by seronimous on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 08:38:00 AM PDT

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    •  that there in lies the problem (none)
      the recruitment of ppl need to be very honest to ppl wanting to get in and how it will actually be for them there.....they simply arent that honest.

      I found boot to be quite different that I had thought.

      If I can survive then I do not undersatnd why others cant.

      PPL do not give things a good thought before they leap in to this kind of dicision making.

      I was reg Navy and AF.  My daughter after being educated by mom wanted to do something for her country so she went reserve.  She is now dead so I can not tell you if she thought I was right or wrong on my teachings.  But my son is alive and still kicking after an 8 year hitch.  5 active and 3 reserve.  NOw lets just go and ask him.  I can tell you he has not got much good to say about the marines at Quantico...officer kind for he was their hospitalcorpsman in that tour.

      some tried to be good and do their very best..others goofed off and plain and simple complained about everything.

      He had to do the very training and all that they had to do for he had to be there for them in everything.  He said he didnt have to do it but he wanted to show them if he could do it, they certainly could.  Surprisingly he had a lot of good things to say about the women in his unit of marines.  surprised????!!!!!  they did what they were told to do and with great pride.  some of the men were whining about everything.  Surpirsed????!!!

      I am not advocating anything here but to say, we all make the service of our country into what we want it to be.  I am just proud of the fact that my children know the reality of their service. not the made up service.  

      It hurts me way tooooo much to see someone like JJGG do what he has done and get by with it!

      Plain and simple he is a damn crook and lier and I hate....yes I said the hate word here......I hate for someone like him come along and dismantle everything the corps stands for and does.  He should be taken like booman said and given a good whippin for this by those he dishonors.

      It is simply about honor and integerity.  He has not got one ounce of it in his decrepid body.  And for the WH to simly let thsi kind of thing go on is beyond belief, even if it is dubya.  Maybe I can still find someone at HDQS MC, DC to do this.....;o(

      The corps should be right after his little butt and wanting some answers!  They are the ones to take this man out, even if he is a gay person or an operative of the republican party.

      he is a danger to all of the CORPS.

      •  btw (4.00)
        all this talk of Quantico brings back so many good memories.

        One in particular is sitting a local resturant seeing pictures of Pappy just cant remember his name,( Boyington)    Black Sheep history.  It was so good to hear the marines sepeak of him and his history and be so reverent to his memory.

        I hope you guys can tell, I still love the military and think lots of it.

        The time I spent in it was such a great time for me.  I learned like never before in my life of things that I needed to know about my profession and the school of life.

        I just do not want to think of anyone being in the military for the wrong reasons.  This truly bothers me to no end.

        To have some one dishonor it is way beyond belief.

        I still have friends and family in the  military.

        I love to go to Walter Reed and Bethesda and look up on the ones who still serve our great country.

        I sit at times and cry in my soul about the things war has brought to our doorstep once again.

        Sadly to say, JJGG is one of them.  His kind has to be removed from our society and taken to pay for their gastly deeds.

        I think if given enough roap, he will hang himself more and more.  I just do not wish for  him to display his dirty linen in public using my/our military as a contributing factor.

        I have other issues to be address about military things but here is nothe place to do it in this diary.

        This is about Gannon...plain and simple

        •  Gregory "Pappy" Boyington (none)
          and there used to be a tv show loosely (and I do mean that) based on his exploits, and on his book, which if memory serves was something like "Baa, Baa, Black Sheep."

          I was stationed at Quantico in 1965-66..   my most recent visit was a few years ago when I was driving my sister-in-law's husband (technically he's not MY brother-in-law) down to the FBI Academy for the start of his training (And we did get a nice tour as a result) so that we drove through the base just to see what it was like   ..  this was, of course, pre-9/11 and it was still pretty easy to get into the base then.  Lots of familiar sights, even 3 decades+ later.

          Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH!

          by teacherken on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 03:09:57 PM PDT

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    •  Correction (none)
      Sorry to nitpick,  I agree with your post BTW, except that E-4 in the Marine Corps is Corporal.  E-3 is Lance Corporal.  My son is an E-3 now, has been in for just over 21 months, been to Iraq and working on advancement to E-4, Corporal.  They use a points system now that takes many things into consideration including time in current rate.  If he's able to complete all the necessary requirements he still won't make E-4 until he's been in for nearly 3 years.  Advancement in the Marines has always been slow when compared with the other armed forces.  Why should we not believe that this journalist imposter, Gannon, would also not impersonate a Marine?

      Why hasn't there been an investigation of this scumbag and who allowed him into the White House Press Room.  

      •  thanks for the verification and (none)
        notification.  I pray your son is in safe and Gods' hands.

        We all ahve to stick together!  no matter what.

        This man gives the Marine Coprs and us a bad taste in  our mouths.

        The restructuring of the services have not done much good in my opinion.  I think that they should have left things as was.

        It is hard to make such a great change in thins like the Services and do much good.

        I can certainly get on a very deifinate rant with dishonoring veterans and current military ppl.

        I can honestly say, we do have to stick together on this one.  It is about the Corps, for Gods' sake.  He has done a great deal of damage in integerity if you ask me.

        Let me know how your son is, BTW.  I am saying my prayers for him.

        •  oh BTW (none)
          it is of my opinion that no one should have to study for advancement in rate as in the infantry or the likes, especially in a time of war, for heavens sake.

          This is what they makek one do...study from written material!

          I call it on the job training!!!!!!

          •  Follow up. (none)
            My son won't re-enlist but he does intend to do his best while he's serving his country.  He just returned from his Iraqi tour (near Fallujah) and is now cramming to get his E-4 rating.
            Here's a short snippit from his online blog:
            I've ordered five MCI courses to add credits for college and get promoted.
            I'll probably do every MCI I can, especially in the math field.
            It'll be better later on for me when I do college in 2 yrs.
            To get Corporal I need 320 more points to my cutting score.
            As of this moment I have the highest score in my shop
            Every month I'm in i get 7 pts. If I do seven MCI's I can add 100 pts to my score.
            My goal is to be a Corporal at the latest by Jan of 2007.
            Will take time, but that's ok so long as I get that rank.

            I'm really proud of him, he's a great kid and always tries to do the right thing.

            "The penalty good men pay for not being interested in politics is to be governed by men worse than themselves." - Plato

            •  I am with y ou, Mom (none)
              I do certainly understand.  God bless you and yours for having to deal with this and making the best of it that you can.

              Just always know once you are in our hearts it is hard to get out of ourhearts.

              We active and past military are the FAMILY and we do stick together when the times get hard to deal with.

              If ever you need anything just let me know.  I will do my level best to get it done for you.

              Lots of hugs!!!!!!!!!

        •  What if he just assumed (none)
          the same information as one of his tricks?

          Just like the recommendation?

          Fix the Problems, Don't create new ones

          by BarnBabe on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 09:21:14 PM PDT

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      •  Right! (none)
        Sorry about that lapse on my part.  Between running back and forth between the Enlisted ratings and ranks of the US Army and Marines, I confused myself.

        Should have been more careful.  Thanks for the back-up.  I know the marines hand out rank (and everything) at a glacial pace compared to the other branches.

        "Every day, in every way, I think I'm going to vomit."

        by seronimous on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 11:02:16 AM PDT

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        •  thanks for the acknowledgment (none)
          We do have to stick together on things to get the job done.

          The radical right has done a very good job at dividing us in lots of issues.  This is  one they will not get away with, if I have any say in it.

          It is hard to keep up with things the way the military does.  different branches have their own ways of doing things, but some things are standard with all.

          •  I take it that youare with the army side of this (none)
            issue, right?

            I have not heard much about the Herd lately,...173rd...what are they active in?  

            Is the 82nd in Iraq? and if so where.

            •  82nd... (none)
              I think that it was in Iraq.

              But I also remember hearing something about it being in Afghanistan. That was on NPR sometime last spring.

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