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  •  "Completely forgotten?" (0+ / 0-)

    What do you base that on?  You say that you "are grateful for the work you and your administration have done on our behalf".  By your own words, he has not completely forgotten your cause.

    And as far as "most supportive bases" is concerned-- I certainly hope that Obama's overall support among American Indians is a little more substantial than your friend who is ripping off bumper stickers over this.

    There is never "enough room for everyone to be represented" on a finite list of people.  At best, there is enough room for the most "important" groups to be represented... but this requires some decision to be made about which groups do not make the cut as far as importance.  These groups who fail to make the cut are the groups who proponents of checklist-style diversity would render "invisible" by their own logic, even as they complain themselves of being invisible when their own box is not checked.

    •  Don't know anything about our issues, do you? (13+ / 0-)

      We've been writing about them here for years.  And there's a cultural aspect to this that you clearly don't understand, but which I made clear in the diary.

      Enough.  You've made clear that you don't care for such diversity efforts.  You've also made clear that what we know to be important in our communities politically doesn't matter.  You've had your say.  But you do not get to lecture us, who live the invisibility every damn day, about our needs and our status.

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      by Aji on Wed Feb 22, 2012 at 03:48:49 PM PST

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      •  This is not about issues. (0+ / 0-)

        It is about a political gesture, or, more precisely, the lack of one.  If the political gesture had been made here, it would have been no more or less substantial than the gestures made by Nixon and McCain to attempt to gain American Indian support-- gestures which you called "political calculations", undeserving of the support sought.  Yet when the proper political tribute is not paid in this one instance by this President-- a President who you acknowledged in that diary had also already made political gestures not made by any President before-- it deserves a calling-out like this?

        In that same diary of yours, which I actually like a great deal, you point out numerous issues where the Obama adminstration has taken actions which have benefitted American Indians.  Yet now, because of this perceived slight in one rather arbitrary instance which has nothing to do with issues, all of that which you wrote about barely a month ago is nullified, and you are willing to say that you have been forgotten?  

        I may not know the issues you advocate as well as you do, but I am willing to listen and learn on issues.  Perhaps more importantly, I am a staunch supporter of a candidate of whom you were praising just last month on the issues.  Trying to bring shame to the President on this can do nothing but hurt him, without advancing any issue.  I believe that to be true even if I put aside my personal views on diversity checklists.

        •  Oh, for the love of heaven. (7+ / 0-)

          No one's "trying to bring shame to this President."  He's not a god.  He makes mistakes.  More to the point, his advisers make mistakes.  And here, they've made a big one.

          You're slapping two of his staunchest supporters in the face with your ignorant comments here.  This has nothing to do with somehow hurting him - what we're doing will HELP him, despite the fact that you refuse to get that.  But considering your patronizing and hyperbolic attitude, I'm done responding.  

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          by Aji on Wed Feb 22, 2012 at 05:45:48 PM PST

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          •  Please. (0+ / 0-)
            No one's "trying to bring shame to this President."
            "Our hearts are wounded", "Why is your own family invisible to you?" etc.  These comments are meant to bring shame.  And for something that you acknowledge that you believe may be just a mistake by advisors.

            Accusing me of being hyperbolic?  Some irony in that.  

            This has nothing to do with somehow hurting him - what we're doing will HELP him
            We will have to agree to disagree on that.
    •  The people whose land the dominant culture (5+ / 0-)
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      stole outright had damned well better be important.

      Organ donors save lives! A donor's kidney gave me my life back on 02/18/11; he lives on in me. Please talk with your family about your wish to donate.

      Why are war casualty counts "American troops" and "others" but never "human beings"?

      by Kitsap River on Wed Feb 22, 2012 at 05:34:22 PM PST

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      •  Now he's accusing me of . . . (5+ / 0-)

        "trying to bring shame to this President."  [See above.]  Me.  Is that rich, or what?

        This has descended into idiocy, and I'm done responding to this person.

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        by Aji on Wed Feb 22, 2012 at 05:47:13 PM PST

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        •  Rich, indeed. (1+ / 0-)
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          To this day and on this day, you are one of the President's strongest supporters, one who cares enough to raise an issue in a way that speaks powerfully. It's an issue that, if corrective action is not taken, may (probably more like "will") lose him some of his staunchest allies in a fight in which he cannot afford to lose even one. Mnt Romney, Newt Gingrinch, Rick Don'tGoogleMe, or anybody else who gets the nod from the Republicans will also be supplied with an inexhaustible warchest. On this side, the only way to win is to outwork them, and to do that, you need people.

          If this President is to be re-elected, people power will be the only way it happens. Yes, he needs money, but he needs people even more than money. He cannot afford to piss off the Indians!

          I don't see any shame in your diary, just a call for action and an explanation of why it is needed. I see the language of your people translated into English so that the heart of the words show through. And I see somebody who's not worth your time. Brush him off your shoulder, Nimisenh.

          Organ donors save lives! A donor's kidney gave me my life back on 02/18/11; he lives on in me. Please talk with your family about your wish to donate.

          Why are war casualty counts "American troops" and "others" but never "human beings"?

          by Kitsap River on Wed Feb 22, 2012 at 09:35:11 PM PST

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      •  Of course, that is true. (0+ / 0-)

        And the Obama administration's actions on issues reflect that importance.  Those actions are lasting, and I have to believe that if he is re-elected, there will be more action to come.  Yet here we are, validating people who are tearing off Obama bumper stickers over this arbitrary, manufactured "failure", in spite of his record.  

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