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    is the opposite of forcing a religious view
    but it is requiring people to participate in something that the believe to be immoral. That is the 1st ammendment violation. That is the forcing against conscience. They become an accessory.
    Employers do not have the right to force their religous views onto their employees, regardless of the context.  That infringes on the employees right to religious freedom, which is a violation of the Constitution.
    Correct. And they are not. Employees are not being forced to not contracept. they remain free to choose it.
    •  No its not... (4+ / 0-)
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      you need to re-read the Constitution and all SC decisions made in the past 100 years.  I was a law student, I fully understand the extent of rights and how the SC has continued to shape those rights.

      Do you really, have such a narrow minded view, to believe that A) your personal opinions matter in the context of the situation, our world is extremely overpopulated, minimizing the number is unwanted/unneeded pregnancies is the LEAST we can do B) that anyone agrees with 100% of what their tax dollars are being used for and C) seriously?  are you trolling for a fight?  I know my rights.

      Oh, and heres's a suggestion - DON'T LIKE BIRTH CONTROL, DON'T FUCKING TAKE IT, stop crying about it like a child, no one agrees with 100% of what their tax dollars are used for.  I don't agree with war, but I didn't go around like a cry baby after 9/11 claim that Bush was "forcing" his war-loving beliefs onto me.  I didn't support it and I didn't participate.  This country cannot please everyone, all the time.  It's statistically impossible.  We can please most of the people most of the time.  Unfortunatley you're on the losing end of this one buddy.

      Please go read a book, preferable one not written by some right-wing nut job.  Go back to school, change the channel from the 24hr news stations.  You're clearly misinformed and I have better things to do with my time that school you in Constitutional Law.

      •  so what does the (0+ / 0-)

        free exercise clause mean? And don't neglect the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

        Do you really, have such a narrow minded view, to believe that A) your personal opinions matter in the context of the situation, our world is extremely overpopulated, minimizing the number is unwanted/unneeded pregnancies is the LEAST we can do
        Not a matter of my opinion, it's a matters of everyones rights. Our rights do not end when the world population exceeds 'X' people.
        B) that anyone agrees with 100% of what their tax dollars are being used for and
        We're not even talking about tax dollars. We're talking about the dollars of a religious institution, or individual.
        C) seriously?  are you trolling for a fight?  I know my rights.
        no, but some people seem to equate polite reasoned disagreement with trolling.
        •  I wrote a whole diary, just for you... (2+ / 0-)
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          but I don't like arguing with brick walls, so for now, I'm done with this conversation.  I'm smart enough to know when a conversation is hopeless.

          Religious Freedom from Some

          •  Agreed! (0+ / 0-)

            I tried to keep hope but I guess usually when people make their minds up about something they won't change it but did you see my comment about why you won't pay for other people's abortions if you're paying for health insurance? Btw, I like what you have to say so much, I'm going to follow you now :)

            •  I agree, I did read your comment... (0+ / 0-)

              some people get so wrapped up with their own little world, with their own warped views of morality that they cannot fathom people not agree with them.  

              The difference is my opinions mirror those of the Supreme Court and the Constitution, while it seems other's mirror the Bible....as far as I know, the Constitution is still the law of the land here :)

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