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  •  It's funny because he comes off (12+ / 0-)

    so rude at times on his show (I love him), but he is (ironically) what I would call a "Christian" in his behavior.  Not that we would appreciate that label.  But he is defininetely not a Pharisee.

    "Since when did obeying corporate power become patriotic." Going the Distance

    by Going the Distance on Fri Feb 24, 2012 at 11:39:50 AM PST

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    •  amen (18+ / 0-)

      he hates religion and does not believe in God, but he acts justly and does mercy and yes lives a much better life than the pharisaical fundamentalists

      "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
      Real journalists know that lies do not bring "balance" to truth! (h/t elwior)

      by TrueBlueMajority on Fri Feb 24, 2012 at 11:59:47 AM PST

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      •  Thanks, TBM. Let's make our own New Rule: (19+ / 0-)

        Stop calling the fundies 'Christians' at all, and label them what Jesus would call them: 'Pharisees.'

        I'm sick to death of getting lumped in with these extremely UN-Christian, hate-filled hypocrites. I'm sure the Guy Upstairs--whose name they're sullying--is too.

        Ho'oponopono. To make things right; restore harmony; heal.

        by earicicle on Fri Feb 24, 2012 at 12:32:42 PM PST

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        •  Actually, Jesus called them sons of the devil (1+ / 0-)
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          We should call them Satanists, except that Satanists would probably object.  Though, that is essentially what they are.

          i think my cat is possessed by dick cheney

          by Anton Bursch on Fri Feb 24, 2012 at 01:33:35 PM PST

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        •  While I'm no Christian... (12+ / 0-)

          ...I come to the defense of my Liberal Christian friends and family on a regular basis.

          I call the fundies "Mammonists" because, almost exclusively, that's what they are.  One of these literalist jokers asks me if I can spare a few minutes to talk about God, I ask them if they can spare a few minutes to discuss their personal finances, and what percentage, exactly, comprises this "sell ALL you own and give it to the poor" of which Jesus spoke?

          The UCC (of Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright fame) has a saying:  "We take the bible seriously, but not literally."  Even as an atheist, I'm down with that.  That makes sense.  But the Mammonists claim to take it literally, and then pick and choose which parts they think are literally true.  Certainly none of Jesus' basic radical socialism gets mentioned in their sermons.

          "Confunde et vince." Come visit our chickens at

          by Walden Ponderer on Fri Feb 24, 2012 at 02:15:10 PM PST

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        •  Let's not, (3+ / 0-)
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          at least without examining the history of what the term actually meant, since the term originally described an outlook that most of us would have shared:

          Conflicts between the Pharisees and the Sadducees took place in the context of much broader and longstanding social and religious conflicts among Jews .... One conflict was class, between the wealthy and the poor, as the Sadducees included mainly the priestly and aristocratic families.... Josephus (37 – c. A.D. 100), himself a Pharisee, claimed that the Pharisees received the backing and goodwill of the common people, apparently in contrast to the more elite Sadducees. Pharisees claimed prophetic or Mosaic authority for their interpretation[5] of Jewish laws, while the Sadducees represented the authority of the priestly privileges and prerogatives....
          Because of different approaches to the application of religious law, the Sadducees were the originalist, strict constructionists of their day (think Antonin Scalia), while the Pharisees took a more flexible approach based on the accumulation of legal interpretations, much like our concept of common law and a living Constitution.
          •  And here is an example, from another diary (4+ / 0-)
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            today, of thinking that is authentically traceable to the original ancient Pharisees:

            Being good, decent people brings God into our midst. We do not need a High Priest to say God’s name secretly once a year for us. By doing good, studying and transmitting Torah to our children (and ourselves), by taking time off for Shabbat, being good parents, being good spouses, being good friends and doing ahavath chesed (acts of loving kindness) we build our own spiritual Mishkan over ourselves for God to dwell with us. This is the basis of the religion of Judaism as formulated by our rabbis in our Talmud and other texts.

            -from A Spiritual and Ethical Compendium to the Torah and Talmud by Rabbi Arthur Segal.

            Ideally, religious engagement provides a refuge from the insanity of the world, and inspiration to live a higher quality of life – so that even when our leaders fail as role models, we don’t take their misdeeds as permission to also behave like scumbags. We don’t think committing a felony is OK because “everyone else is doing it.” We don’t allow them to cheapen our values or to contaminate our attitudes. We can be better than the members of the American Nobility, better than the owners of corporations that collude with them in breaking the law.
            In short, the fundies may be hypocrites, but they don't deserve to be called Pharisees.
        •   I call them Old Testament Paulites (0+ / 0-)

          Because they ignore Jesus in favor of the Old Testament and Paul, who never met Jesus, was a tax collector, and saw a great scam he could run.

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