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  •  If the platform is updated prior to the convention (5+ / 0-)

    to include support for marriage equality, then there would be no platform fight -- and, therefore, no danger of any counterproductive squabbles.

    The right thing to do is to update the platform to include marriage equality well in advance of the convention.  It's also politically the smart thing to do.

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    by TexasTom on Sun Feb 26, 2012 at 08:07:21 AM PST

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    •  That's quite optimistic. (2+ / 0-)
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      commonmass, liberaldemdave

      You're, apparently, from Texas.  You don't think there would be a number of members of the Texas delegation that would, indeed, start squabbling if they came to the convention to find an endorsement of gay marriage in the proposed platform language?

      I think there would.  One of the most important things the delegates do is approve the platform, and they always squabble over it.  I think the notion that a fight over an issue on which people have strong opinions can be avoided through procedure puts too much faith in power of procedure.

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      by joe from Lowell on Sun Feb 26, 2012 at 08:42:15 AM PST

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      •  Having lived in Texas for about 20 years (2+ / 0-)
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        and having been involved in Dem politics there, there are more pro-equality folks in Texas than you think. Conventions are about squabbling. It's the nature of the beast.

        Two facts to remember (though with the caveat that Houston is not representative of all of Texas):

        Houston, the fourth largest city in the US has an openly Lesbian mayor.

        No Mayor of Houston since Kathy Whitmire (inclusive) has won without the support of the LGBT community.

        Were there to be a gay rights platform like the one proposed in the Dem platform, lots of conservative Dems would oppose it, some may even support it. Don't forget, on a proportional basis, Massachusetts has as many conservadems as Texas does however fighting gay rights and marriage equality is a losing battle and people know it. Even New Hampshire has marriage equality, for instance.

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        by commonmass on Sun Feb 26, 2012 at 08:48:18 AM PST

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        •  I don't doubt that there are pro-equality TX dems. (2+ / 0-)
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          commonmass, liberaldemdave

          I'm pointing out that there are also a rather large number of Texas dems on the other side, and that they would make a stink.

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          by joe from Lowell on Sun Feb 26, 2012 at 08:51:06 AM PST

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        •  then they need to be involved in the party. (0+ / 0-)

          the last state convention i attended (as a pledged delegate to obama) saw glbt support in the state platform watered down without even a whimper of a fight from organizations like the stonewall democrats.

          the TDP is infested with blue dogs and that "pragmatic" mentality. i was told, by more than one official, that it was *necessary* to "tone down the language" in order to win elections.

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