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  •  The cowering in fear thing. I'm really really (1+ / 0-)
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    tired of it too, and I thought one reason we were so enthused, and successful in the 2008 election is because so many others, both in our party, and just outside it, were as well. I thought a part of the Hope/Change strategy was because it was sensed that so many were tired of both cowering and fear, or as you put it so well, that it just doesn't pay political dividends anymore. Part of the Change to believe in was supposed to be an answer to the perennial charge that Democrats are weak, even from a position of strength/majority.

    •  so you have no problem with operation hilarity? (1+ / 0-)
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      kait

      and we shouldn't worry about santorum inciting anti-gay violence?

      My goal is to make the world safe for anarchy. - 4Freedom

      by Cedwyn on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 04:47:12 AM PST

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      •  NO. I don't support OH. (1+ / 0-)
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        I could immediately picture OH being picked up by television media, NYT, etc., as it was. This I see as less, much less likely to be of interest. BUT, then I read your thoughtful response to my comment upthread, and now I'm thinking again, although still not 100% persuaded. One seems like a goad just made for publicity, while this, in terms of opposition seems less likely to generate outcry--but I am considering hard what you said. I take the bullying, the terror, the harm very seriously, enough that I've once come between something that I thought might start at a convenience store (I'm an old lady, so fuck it, what the hell. I can't have anyone else, young or old, hurt if I can buy time, or assist in some way. My aunt, for whom I am a full-time caregiver, is in full agreement and support of me with this).  OTOH, there is that positive message to be sent, and again, I read your thoughts, which I appreciate BTW, so that I can continue to learn come to the best conclusion that I can. Santorum? I come from a military family, and have wept for this country long before him, but honestly, he is a terror. So I really do appreciate your response to me. I'll continue to read, and think, and now maybe, I am undecided. Hmm.

        •  thanks for the thoughtful reply (1+ / 0-)
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          kait

          we will get there; it shouldn't be this hard, but we will get there eventually.

          peace

          My goal is to make the world safe for anarchy. - 4Freedom

          by Cedwyn on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 07:05:38 AM PST

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