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  •  We need it to get to Super Tuesday (7+ / 0-)

    On Super Tuesday Mitt loses the m ajority of states - and either Gingrich (winning GA and a couple other southern states) and Santorum win a couple -

    the upshot being that at the end of the day, Mitt, Rick and Newt are nearly tied in # of delegates - heading into the latter contests-

    Remember how that worked for Obama in 08- Hillary wasn't prepared to win caucuses and her big money machine had no idea how to engage in retail politics - same will be true w/Mitt-

    Meaning we get closer to no one having a near-majority of delegates heading into the convention.

    The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. --George Orwell

    by jgkojak on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 10:33:47 AM PST

    •  One big difference between 08 / Hillary (5+ / 0-)

      Obama and the GOP is that both candidates were loved by their supporters.  Hugely popular and while it was a vicious primary the candidates themselves were both considered competent and excited the base to vote for them in the General.  

      GOP has no such luxury.  I have read a lot lately at Red State and can't believe how lackluster the support for either Romney or Santorum is.

      I laugh when they suggest this primary is like 08.  It is the opposite in terms of enthusiasm and GOTV

      Barack Obama: "These guys want to be paid like rock stars when all they're doing is lip-synching capitalism." may21, 2010

      by vc2 on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 10:59:51 AM PST

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      •  The Mark Penn factor can't be dismissed (4+ / 0-)
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        MKSinSA, mdmslle, Seneca Doane, HoundDog

        Team Obama made a strategic decision to invest time and money in the caucus states. Team Clinton did not, partly because they were run by Mark Penn who mistakenly believed that the primaries were winner-take-all w/ respect to the delegates.

        I would agree there is some parallel between Romney and Clinton 08, but compared to Romney, she ran a near-perfect campaign against a formidable opponent. Romney, not so much.

      •  Also, the Democratic base was excited (1+ / 0-)
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        While Obama had his huge support from African Americans and Hillary had support from women, nearly all of the Democratic base would have voted for either candidate had one or the other not been in the race at that point.  I don't see that with this current crop of the GOP presidential field.  The Paulites don't want to be seen anywhere near Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum, and Newt and Ricky's base hate Rmoney with a passion equaled only by their hatred of women, gays, people of color, and those of non-Christian faiths.  And even more ominous for the GOP, over half of the Republican voters wish there were another candidate to ride in like a white knight and save the party.

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