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  •  Really? California, which cut education this year (0+ / 0-)

    by $530 milion bucks this year announced under Governor Arnie "Hydrogen Hummer" Schwartenwhatever a 10 billion dollar solar subsidy in 2006.

    It's now six years later.

    How much energy do all the solar facilities in California produce?

    Heres the figures:  California electricity generation by source.

    Note the figures for solar energy, including the "solar thermal"/gas crap built by the now bankrupt Luz company in the early 1990's, but are still running under new ownership after fleecing all of the original investors, more than 20 years ago.

    California has four nuclear plants running:  Two units at San Onofre, and two units at Diablo Canyon.   In those four buildings, they have produced more energy in every single one of the last 13 years than all the wind, solar, geothermal, tidal, and biomass (choke, choke) facilities in the entire state.

    This, by the way, was after 13 years of maligning the nuclear industry by the fear, ignorance and superstition squad and cheering mindlessly (while burning more and more gas) for the renewable junk that blights the desert landscape and creates (in the solar case) all kinds of toxic junk in China and elsewhere.

    Let's assume that the 10 billion subsidy is evenly divided over 10 year, in other words, a billion bucks per year.

    There is NOT ONE year in the last ten years, NOT ONE, where solar electricity has produced even 1/2 of 1% of California's electricity.   NOT ONE.

    That's rooftop + thermal, everything, all of it.

    Between 2006 and 2010, solar produced 3775 gigawatt-hours of electricity.    At the five years inclusive - just counting the subsidy and no other costs, that works out to 75 cents per kwh.   That's more than 7.5 times the national rate with all subsidies for all things included.

    Now.   The solar industry is at this point, nothing more than a government subsidized religion, an article of faith that does not stand up to scrutiny.

    As long as Californians throw their money around while cutting, of all things, education, it's likely that no one will notice of course, but I, at least, am educated, and I can damn well count.

    I wish I could say that this money is being squandered only in California, but I can't.   It's an awful, irresponsible waste, and future generations, should they exist - and maybe they won't - will be right to hold us in contempt for the way we lied to ourselves at their expense.

    •  More lies (11+ / 0-)
      In 2006, CA Public Utilities Commission President Michael Peevey laid the foundation for the California Solar Initiative, a 10-year, $3 billion program designed to stimulate growth of solar market in California.
      That's considerably less than the "$10 billion subsidy in 2006" that you posit above.  I don't know if you meant to imply that CA spent $10 billion in one year, but you did.

      Trust me, buddy, if we spent 1/10 of what we have spent on the nuclear boondoggle in the past 50 years on solar, we'd be getting all our power from solar in a very short time.  

      It costs $10 billion to build one nuke plant, and a shitload to run it after it's built.  Not to mention that you waste 2/3 of the energy boiling rivers and cooling the water back down.  Nuclear is the most inefficient, costly form of energy around, and that's assuming you don't have a meltdown or dispersal event at any time over the next million years of waste that you've created.

      Johnny's in the basement mixin' up the medicine I'm on the pavement thinkin' 'bout the government - Bobby D

      by CharlieHipHop on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 08:05:11 PM PST

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