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  •  We're seeing the death-throes (31+ / 0-)

    of RW ideology as a dominant force in national politics.

    We're seeing it in the political will to slash social spending because "unworthy" (poor, brown) people are "getting too much." We're seeing it in the trumped-up fervor against birth control and in the renewed intensity of sexist, ageist attacks on women in the public eye. We're seeing it in the hostility towards marriage equality. To name just a few examples.

    It's not 1980, and it'll never be, again. They know it. They're panicking.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Tue Feb 28, 2012 at 07:56:17 AM PST

    •  I strongly disagree that RW ideology is dying (5+ / 0-)

      I think the ultimate answer is a No. 4, made up of a little bit of No. 3 and a good dollop of No. 2 (no pun intended). That is, the Borderer subculture, which has taken over the thinking of the Republican Party, is farther ideologically from the rest of the country than it has ever been; one might be able to say it's being marginalized, except for the fact that it dominates so much of our media, including but not limited to Fox News. The ubiquity of its presence makes it seem bigger than it really is. Nevertheless, it is not by any definition dying out. On the contrary, it's a hardy strain, one that thrives under the most adverse conditions. (In fact, arguably, it requires adversity to survive -- otherwise its adaptations no longer make any sense, and come to seem downright maladaptive.)

      It sees itself in a fight to the death against the subcultures with which it has to compete for mindshare, most of all the Quaker-descended liberal humanism that folks like us generally embrace, and since it has such a hard time accepting the possibility of coexistence, it will opt for conquest over capitulation, which it perceives to be the only alternative. If it succeeds in its conquest, it's very likely that the result will be an authoritarian, nationalist bully state, if not actually fascist then certainly close to it in both spirit and form.

      "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

      by Geenius at Wrok on Tue Feb 28, 2012 at 01:03:03 PM PST

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      •  It's a really interesting, thoughtful comment, (2+ / 0-)
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        one I'm going to tip, even though I don't think you really did justice to mine.

        Re this passage:

        If it succeeds in its conquest, it's very likely that the result will be an authoritarian, nationalist bully state, if not actually fascist then certainly close to it in both spirit and form.
        My point above was that it isn't going to succeed as more than a subculture, long-term. OK, a fierce and entrenched subculture, but not one that is going to have anything like the airplay in 2-3 decades that it's taken for granted since Reagan. Why? They just aren't going to have the numbers. The RW base is essentially crotchety old white guys who watch Fox News--so say all the reputable polls--and they're dying out.

        It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

        by karmsy on Tue Feb 28, 2012 at 01:34:43 PM PST

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    •  Not as long as the money holds out (1+ / 0-)
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      I view most of the RW agenda as a smoke screen sponsored by the very rich to maintain control of the political process for their financial gain.  So as long as they can spend megabucks to focus attention away from their real agenda, it will be a force in our politics.

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