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  •  It overly compliments it to call it "libertarian" (11+ / 0-)

    Often, as with Ron Paul, it just comes down to wanting the level of allowable domination to be that of the state rather than the nation.  For others, it's the county Sheriff; for others, it's the husband and father.  Too little so-called libertarianism turns out to be actually anti-oppressive; the discarding of human rights principles by the likes of Paul shows that clearly.

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    by Seneca Doane on Tue Feb 28, 2012 at 12:08:33 PM PST

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    •  I'm not sure I agree with that definition (4+ / 0-)

      I agree that libertarians generally believe that the more you centralize power and control, the more it's going to be abused, so they prefer that power and control, to the extent those are necessary, be vested at local levels.

      And I'm not sure Ron Paul is the best example of a libertarian.  He's still a Republican (although I don't understand why).  Most intellectually honest libertarians I know (as opposed to conservatives who just call themselves libertarians) are not any happier with Republicans than Democrats.  They (1) don't like the Republican view of government control over social/moral issues; and (2) they think that while some Republicans say the "right things" about economic issues, most of them are just big government spenders.  

      •  I think (4+ / 0-)

        Ron Paul is only a republican because he reallized he has no chance of winning as an independent or third party candidate. He tried that in 1988 as the candidate for the libertarian party and that was a bust. For him it probably comes down to understanding that no matter how many people believe in your ideas if your not in one of the two main parties you have no chance in our system.

        •  Ron Paul is a conservative (1+ / 0-)
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          He doesn't always toe the GOP party line, but he is either a conservative with some libertarian impulses or a libertarian with strong conservative impulses, take your pick.  Not a pure libertarian by any means.

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          by MJB on Tue Feb 28, 2012 at 10:10:47 PM PST

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