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  •  You do know the Stratfor is a joke (4+ / 0-)
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    Deep Texan, Catte Nappe, KenBee, phillies

    in serious foreign policy and security circles, right? No body who does this stuff for a living takes them seriously nor do they think they actually know anything that isn't already common knowledge published in the previous weeks Foreign Policy or Economist magazines.

    I willing to get all outraged, but I like not to get outraged at an organization that is pretty much a laughing stock already.

    Republican Family Values: Using the daughters from your first wife to convince everybody that your second wife is lying about your third wife.

    by jsfox on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 11:26:31 AM PST

    •  Burton Fmr State Dep D-Chief of Counterterrorism (5+ / 0-)

      for the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS).

      So... what are you talking about again?

      •  Yep, they're not important, (11+ / 0-)

        as the emails only

        ...reveal the inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal’s Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defense Intelligence Agency.
        Good thing no one took 'em serious, or we'd have something to be concerned about.

        Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, move along, nothing to see here.
        Look over there, bright shiny!!!!!!
        Sigh.


        "When the powerless are shut out of the media, we will make the media irrelevant" ~Anonymous~

        by Lisa Lockwood on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 12:25:09 PM PST

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        •  Really truly confidential intelligence? (2+ / 0-)
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          KenBee, phillies

          Or a sort of repackaging and evaluation of already known information? I've always had the impression it was more the latter. And am not surprised that major companies, and federal agencies, include such a thing in their newsletter subscription diet.

          You provide the quote you do as though it were fact, when it appears simply to be Wikileaks opinion. Likewise, Stratfor marketed their opinions, whether anybody wants to hold those out as facts or not.

          from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

          by Catte Nappe on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 12:36:57 PM PST

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        •  what I don't get (0+ / 0-)

          (slightly off topic) is how Dow can justify spending the money to hire Stratfor to spy on medical relief organizations that are trying to help the victims of the Bhopal disaster...but they won't spend money to clean up the mess they made? I guess Stratfor is cheaper.

          My other favorite piece of news (so far) was that Wachovia has laundered something like 70 million in Mexican drug cartel money.

      •  Fred Burton (0+ / 0-)

        Was thinking perhaps the State dept better off without him and wondering if he got cleaned out of there. Not much about him (to say the least) at Dept of State website, and I'm guessing his name was never on this page at DoS--notice there are no "chiefs" here. Again I'll guess: he was something like "Chief of Station" (which I'm not sure State Dept has, formally) in Timbuktu or something and is trying to make himself look like hot shit on the Internets. But all that is guessing; it's how his wikipedia page (which, after all, he could have written himself) reads to me. My guess is he may have been an agent for a while.

        If I had time, I'd watch this to get a better idea.

        Fred Burton - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 05/28/08 - Video ...

        28 May 2008 ... Fred Burton describes his life as one of three counterterrorism agents. Airdate - 05/28/08.

        www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-28-2008/fred-burton

        "...just ordinary people, you know, people who are not famous, if they get together, if they persist, if they defy the authorities, they can defeat the largest corporation in the world. - Howard Zinn

        by Sean X on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 08:31:02 PM PST

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    •  The Point (5+ / 0-)

      OK.  Perhaps you are correct about "foreign policy and security circles".

      I am not sure that such a "snub" has much significance to the issue here.

      The question is not how that set of foreign policy elites feels about the company.

      The question is about what the company does and with and by and for whom.

    •  My Reply went below (0+ / 0-)

      See below "Point" for my response.

    •  They may be a joke, but so is the GOP (1+ / 0-)
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      Horace Boothroyd III

      and they have managed to march us backward off of a cliff.

      Stratfor makes good money and does have influence at least on how the narrative is framed from the globalist/corporatist perspective.

      See Geo Friedman's book "The Next 100 Years"

      Remember that these are not necessarily people who are accurately analyzing reality so much as shaping the how the events present and past are massaged.

      In other words they not only drink the kool-aid, they make the kool-aid.  Kind of an RandD unit to develope knew flavors of the same old worthless poison.

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