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  •  Maybe so, but (7+ / 0-)

    it doesn't change the fact that many of the elite on the right here in America view her as a goddess and interpret her ideology to fit right in line with their own.  An ideology which espouses the survival of only the strongest and the smartest and to hell with anyone else.

    "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." - John F. Kennedy

    by helpImdrowning on Mon Mar 05, 2012 at 09:18:48 PM PST

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    •  Well, sure. (5+ / 0-)

      I'm not defending Rand's conclusions at all.  I just think she comes out of a more a complicated set of motivations than are usually ascribed to her.  

      Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

      by pico on Mon Mar 05, 2012 at 09:35:36 PM PST

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    •  Exactly. Her utopia would be hell for so many (2+ / 0-)
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      Also, Weiss points out that she was perfectly willing to use America's social safety net and institutions when it suited her, like going on Medicare to treat her cancer, or Social Security to supplement her income.

      •  There is a certain mindset (1+ / 0-)
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        that these works appeal to, a mindset that won't compromise, and can see only black and white.  These folks argue that any system with a hint of socialism must end in something like Stalinism.  The evidence amassed right here in the USA since the 1930s would seem to be enough to refute that, but Randians are apparently not evidence-driven.

    •  I first read AS at 15, once a year for 20 years (0+ / 0-)

      after that.
      The people who claim to be the like the "heros" in are actually the advisories of the "hero's"in the book.

      What I got out of it was that each person no matter in what job that did it well was to be applauded.

      Also that those with abilities others did not possess were responsible for caring for them, as people have different abilities.

      I ignored most of the political stuff in the book except for Government not having the right to take the product of a person's work from them and giving it away, Like Bill Gates, no one has been able to do what he has done and it should not be taken away from him because of that fact.

      As Bill Gates shows us, he cares for Humanity.
      That is what I have done in my life, did the best I could, but encountered people at work who could not do it get raises and promoted due to azz kissing, which I did not do.

      I think those goofballs who are claiming to be the product of Atlas Shrugged haven't even read the entire book. I is a BIG book with small type, I cannot immagine the people in the tea party putting down their beers and actually reading every word.
      I have always been a big reader, reading a book a day these years (no longer working) and it took me a long time to read it even the last time, so...
      I guess it is like any book, you take out the good things and ignore the BS hype you do not agree with.
      Whenever I saw or read about Rand I always felt sorry for her for being so emotionally messed up.

      •  She had "issues," to put it mildly (2+ / 0-)
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        The whole mess with the Brandens was the stuff of grand opera, except that the Objectivists would buy up all the tickets and close the opera house if they got wind of it.

        •  It's all in Barbara Branden's The Passion of Ayn (0+ / 0-)

          Rand. It's not grand opera. It's soap opera, a typical love triangle.

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          by Kimball Cross on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 11:58:45 AM PST

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      •  I tried to read AS at the ripe old age of 17 (0+ / 0-)

        which was perfect for a conversion. I thought it was terrible as literature. The characters had no subtlety and the narrative came to a stop periodically so the author could lecture the reader through the mouth of a character.

        I readily saw through the politics of it. She treats all who disagree as men of straw to be effortlessly knocked down.

        "Mistress of the Topaz" is now available in paperback! Link here: http://www.double-dragon-ebooks.com/single.php?ISBN=1-55404-900-8

        by Kimball Cross on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 12:00:40 PM PST

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