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  •  I think you're too generous. Americans are (1+ / 0-)
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    trained to be paranoid and have been since Nixon perfected that art, which the Tea Party has now honed to a science.

    American political discourse focuses on insecurity, and letting other groups (racial minorities, working class people, sexual minorities) actually have a say in the national conversation scares a class of conservative mostly white mostly older voters.  

    The Rightwing Noise Machine has usd that to poison our political discouse so you get the kind of comments you replied to above, which amount to something like -- "how dare black people have an opinion about race that's different from mine"

    Anyway, like I say, I think you're too magnanimous about American political discourse.  But that's speaks to your humaneness, I guess.  I for one am fed up with the toxic inauthentic rhetoric of our politics.

    An imbalance between the rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics - Plutarch

    by Leftwing Noise Machine on Thu Mar 01, 2012 at 01:27:58 PM PST

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    •  On the right, it's 100% about racism (2+ / 0-)
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      On the left, it's racial insensitivity.

      For me it's really about understanding the root causes so I can be effective, rather than being nice. I really don't care all that much about being nice actually.

      There's a difference between racism and racial insensitivity and Melissa Harris-Perry has talked about it before publicly.

      I think it's a very important understanding in America 2012.

      One is along the lines of what the judge who overturned the anti-gay marriage law talked about: a form of prejudice that's more about a lack of reasonable consideration than an active hatred.

      White liberals just forget how easy they have it compared to blacks. So they say things that sound racist but it's really just insensitivity and moments of self-centeredness.

      Everyone has moments when they think their pain is the only thing that matters. They just have to get past it and try to do a better job of staying in the right frame of mind all the time.

      •  I think we're saying the same thing. I think (1+ / 0-)
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        the insensitivity comes from a depauperate political discourse that has been poisoned by the right, and not properly opposed by progressives.

        We need to be able to listen to other people in this country besides the wealthy and the powerful.  But the media is set up to delegitimize their voices.

        Just look at Limbaugh, calling a witness on a the contraception debate in Congress a slut.

        That's how our discourse gets debased.

        An imbalance between the rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics - Plutarch

        by Leftwing Noise Machine on Thu Mar 01, 2012 at 02:29:55 PM PST

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