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  •  His family: His widow's grandfather founded (6+ / 0-)

    the ACLU.

    His widow's father is Orson Bean, the actor who was blacklisted by McCarthyism in the 1950's.

    These are the people who are still around to hear the vitriol and hatred being spewed here.

    And his children.

    If it's so important to spread the venom, why not pop a note off to Orson Bean? Or is it easier to kick a dead horse?

    Personally, I don't care to hear all the crap. It just shows me that Breitbart was right about one thing: There are nasty and vicious people lacking civility and social consciousness on the left.

    I'm with you, wxdude.

    "All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats" - Groucho Marx

    by GrumpyOldGeek on Thu Mar 01, 2012 at 02:47:30 PM PST

    •  What Tolstoy said. eom (0+ / 0-)

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Thu Mar 01, 2012 at 03:42:52 PM PST

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    •  Nonsense (2+ / 0-)
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      burlydee, labwitchy

      And yes Virginia, there are "mean" people on the left.

      Jesus Christ, we aren't saints either.

    •  Just because he had awesome in-laws (0+ / 0-)

      doesn't make him any nicer, just as being deceased didn't make him any nicer.

      I honestly wonder what those two thought of their son-in-law.  I am betting that it wasn't much nicer than what some other people are thinking.

      I don't remember ever feeling anything but sorry when I hear about people passing away, hell I hate opening IGTNT diaries because them make me cry, but honestly, today, when I read the news (and I am by no means proud of this) I felt relief.

      That man went out of his way to make himself an enemy of anything liberal.  He lied and cheated and screamed until the media replayed his lies.  It was awful.

      So yeah, I felt relief, and then I felt bad that I didn't feel bad at all.

      "I watch Fox News for my comedy, and Comedy Central for my news." - Facebook Group

      by Sychotic1 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 at 05:11:50 PM PST

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    •  But... (0+ / 0-)

      Orson Bean is on the wrong side of marriage equality as he wrote on his son-in-law's site Big Hollywood.

      Now we jump ahead to today. Prop. 8 is on the ballot: marriage should be between a man and a woman. (Jerry Brown had rearranged the wording to confuse the issue, but that’s what it meant.) I agree with that proposition. What’s ideal for kids is to have a loving mom and dad. I know a lot of people don’t think so. They put the rights of the grown-ups first. Or they say two women or two men are just as good. Or a single parent. In New Jersey, judges have ruled that a same-sex couple or a single person applying to adopt must be given the same place in line as a married man and woman. I think that’s bad for kids. This makes me homophobic? I’m in show business. Half the people in my life are gay. I’ve attended two same-sex wedding ceremonies this year, one of them for a cousin. I wish them all the happiness in the world. But the law has to uphold what’s ideal.

      Seventy percent of African-American voters (all of whom, I’m sure, went for Obama) cast a ballot in favor of Prop. 8. They know it’s not a civil rights issue. They believe in family values in that community. They’ve seen first hand what the assault on marriage results in. That’s what Prop. 8 is trying to stave off: an attack on the institution of marriage itself. It’s not about rights. Gay people already have all the rights of marriage; they’ve fought hard for them and they deserve them. What they want now is the WORD. And when a word means everything, it means nothing.

      What’s going on in the streets these days is nothing less than a war on democracy itself. Both sides fought hard to win that vote. The anti Prop .8 side out-spent the other side and mustered every celebrity they could find to make their case. They fought long and hard… and they lost. And now they riot and attack and sling mud and black-list to protest the outcome of an honest election, the results of which they call “the tyranny of the majority”. What?!

      I’m a comic but this ain’t funny. God forbid democracy loses out around here and people stop living with the results of elections. In totalitarian countries like Hitler’s Germany and Stalin’s Soviet Union, (and today in Saudi Arabia and Iran, to name just two of many), they put gay guys in jail. And not fun jails like in Turkey, either.

      We’d better be careful how we act out there in the streets these days.

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