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  •  Not cool... (3+ / 0-)
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    When G-d is evaluating whether you've been a good person or not during your life, I don't think a belief, disbelief or questioning is going to be a determinant factor.  Plenty of atheists are good people, just like plenty of believers are assholes.  I think G-d is interested in the good person aspect, not whether you're a believer.

    Preserve sanity in our government. Re-elect and strengthen and recapture. Proud to be a Democrat!

    by Mets102 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 12:03:40 PM PST

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    •  Thank you (1+ / 0-)
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      In all sincerity, thank you for the comment.  Faith communities of all stripes too often get bound up in doctrine and "right expression".  It becomes easy to forget that the community's purpose is to support the individual's sense of connection to the divine, however they perceive it, even without a divine entity in the mix.  Some aspects speak far louder than membership.

    •  I agree that motivations are what will be judged. (0+ / 0-)

      Many believers do good things, expecting a "payday" in heaven. And they will be surprised when it is dismissed. I was flipping their statement. I hope for noone to be lost and have to endure eternal misery. But my understanding of Christian teachings requires acceptance of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross to gain eternal life in heaven. The athiest on judgement day will have the same standing as a criminal before a judge saying "I don't believe in you! You can't send me to jail" But I respect that others believe differently and don't intend to try to push mine on them.

      •  It's seems more like you're salivating... (0+ / 0-)

        ...over the idea of people "endur[ing] eternal misery".  Why would anyone want to go to Heaven to be with a being who subjects people to "eternal misery."  One cannot be both compassionate and threaten people with torture.  If God exists and Hell is real, then God is sadistic and evil.

        •  I'm not salivating. And may likely be crying.... (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm sorry if my first comment set the wrong tone to represent me. That " first impressions" thing seems to have bit me. I understand and appreciate your view. From my understanding, and I am faliable, the premise is that "they did it to themselves". If they deny His existence then they have rejected Him, and want no part of what He has created. What you percieive as a threat is meant as a warning. At least that's how I understant it.

          •  Your warning... (1+ / 0-)
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   more like a condemnation.  I've had enough people in my life telling me that I was going to Hell.  Not only did it make me believe in Hell, and believe that I belonged in Hell, I even started to think about how to kill myself so that I could get to Hell quicker.  Thankfully, I was able to realize that the concept of Hell and a compassionate God are totally antithetical before I could kill myself.  Demands that people believe under threat of torture is abusive and psychologically damaging.

    •  Not according to the Qur'an. (0+ / 0-)

      Good deeds are important, but many verses place belief in Him first; for example, "For those who believe and work deeds of righteousness is a reward that will never fail." (41:8) Note the "and" in the verse; it's not "or."

      Muslims and tigers and bears, oh my!

      by JDsg on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 11:00:50 PM PST

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