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  •  this isn't exactly anti-capitalist, (2+ / 0-)
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    or maybe it is anti the existing system -- the EU is going to announce quotes and timetables under which more women will be advanced in European corporations and onto boards of directors.

    I can just hear the whines and screams if that were tried here, but the commissioner cited in this Guaridan story said that otherwise it would take another 40 years to achieve parity.

    You go, Euro sisters!

    Republicans only want government small enough to fit in a woman's private parts. -- Caroline Heldman, Professor of Politics, Occidental College

    by Mnemosyne on Sun Mar 04, 2012 at 06:04:15 PM PST

    •  It is interesting to raise this issue and exactly (3+ / 0-)
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      caused the divide between the "bourgeois" in-system feminists and the more socialist working class women.  The gains made by women getting onto the boards of major major corporations is an individual human rights advance for a few women who "break the glass ceiling" but how many women does this effect?  and once they are in these positions will they be any different than the other 1% in exploiting the rest of the 99%.  The socialist women would say that the goals of women's equality have to advance all women (or at least the 99%).

      •  Two of the women who can be cited here: (1+ / 0-)
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        Made fortunes as CEO's of major corporations (Hewlitt-Packard and World Wide Wrestling) and then used their fortunes to run as Republicans for important governmental seats.  It is often hard to let go of power, once held.  

        Just waitin' around for the new Amy Winehouse album

        by jarbyus on Mon Mar 05, 2012 at 07:29:40 AM PST

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        •  exactly, my point below! thanks ... missed this (0+ / 0-)

          earlier.

          "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

          by NY brit expat on Mon Mar 05, 2012 at 03:39:57 PM PST

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    •  They are instituting that while they are cutting (2+ / 0-)
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      hundreds of thousands of women's jobs due to the introduction of austerity measures and cuts in the public sector. Women are highly overly represented in the public sector not only due to traditional female sectors being state run (health, education, civil service) but also due to initial quotas established to prevent discrimination. The attacks on the social welfare state are destroying the lives of women and children. Yet they offer crumbs to make sure we are on the board of directors ... we need food on our tables, roofs above our heads and clothes on our children and our backs. Mothers are skipping meals to make sure that they can feed their children as benefit money is decreasing. But we can have a few women advanced as corporate directors? This is literally a situation of impoverish the poor and further income and wealth inequality while advancing a few. We all need to be advanced, not only the educated and middle classes. sigh ...

      "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

      by NY brit expat on Sun Mar 04, 2012 at 06:33:53 PM PST

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      •  I hold to the idea (0+ / 0-)

        that if there are more women in positions of corporate power, there really will be some trickle-down (loathesome term) to benefit others -- there are areas that opened up in the US years ago because just a few more women got some corporate clout. Not perfect, but at least it's a step forward.

        And I like the prospect of pressuring the old boys' networks from whatever direction.

        Republicans only want government small enough to fit in a woman's private parts. -- Caroline Heldman, Professor of Politics, Occidental College

        by Mnemosyne on Sun Mar 04, 2012 at 09:08:52 PM PST

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        •  But why? How did Margaret Thatcher improve (1+ / 0-)
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          or benefit the lives of the vast majority. How did Meg Whitman improve the lives of women? People in powerful positions are not what we need as often when they reach there, their interests are not our interests. They are members of the 1% and quite honestly whether male or female, straight or gay, a person or colour or white; it is rare that they will stand with the majority. It too much to get where they were and it is the rare one that bothers to look back. Most are from backgrounds where success is deemed as proof of their superiority.

          There are exceptions of course; but we need to build a movement from the bottom-up to empower all women not pray that a woman in power in either business or politics will remember that she while she has been granted a seat at the table with the boys, there are others that are not even being allowed to serve at the table.

          "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

          by NY brit expat on Mon Mar 05, 2012 at 04:35:36 AM PST

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          •  I always felt that (1+ / 0-)
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            Margaret Thatcher, like Indira Gandhi, proved that with equal opportunity women could be just as corrupt and venal as men.

            we need to build a movement from the bottom-up to empower all women not pray that a woman in power in either business or politics will remember that she while she has been granted a seat at the table with the boys, there are others that are not even being allowed to serve at the table.
            I was in this fight early on, the very fact that women now hold positions as traders or financial advisors, any kind of corporate executive, sit on however few boards is a huge triumph.

            And they're not all perfect. And the ones who come along 10 years later think it's automatic, don't realize how tough it was. so the entire process is two steps forward and one step back, as it ever was, alas.

            Republicans only want government small enough to fit in a woman's private parts. -- Caroline Heldman, Professor of Politics, Occidental College

            by Mnemosyne on Mon Mar 05, 2012 at 08:26:43 AM PST

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            •  agree mnemosyne ... it is a triumph, but (0+ / 0-)

              we really need to cover the needs of the many. Offering a fingernail while taking the whole hand is simply insulting. The EU passes austerity measures which are disproportionally effecting women (this is the case in Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal). They are destroying the public sector where women are disproportionally employed, while they offer a palliative which has little or no impact on the vast majority of women who are facing real hardship due to an unnecessary attack. What we need is both, women being able to move to break a glass ceiling and full-time well paid jobs for others with benefits. Most job creation that is occurring is part-time jobs and these are also disproportionally going to women as they are also losing benefits and after-school programmes and need to cover the kids as well. Giving a pat on the head to a tiny few and then knee-capping all the others is catastrophic.

              "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

              by NY brit expat on Mon Mar 05, 2012 at 02:10:47 PM PST

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        •  Wish I thought that was true, but the dominant (1+ / 0-)
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          culture always runs the show -- and in this case, any women who get the power only get it if they agreed to support the dominant (male capitalist)culture.

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