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  •  Um... well... (3+ / 0-)
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    The Catholic Church has also come out firmly against capital punishment, grossly unequal income distribution, and the war in Iraq. They are in favor of the social safety net, including basic income support and a right to health care.

    Rick Santorum is against all of these things.

    I am not saying the Catholic Church is correct... but it seems clear to me Santorum has created his own version of Inquistion era Catholicism, divorced of any relationship with the Pope or theocratic authority.

    In short, he has arrogated to himself the judgment as to what is godly and what is not -- and he seems pretty clearly to believe in only the Old Testament angry war god.

    If we accept your assertion that Santorum is a "real" Catholic, this means the Roman Catholic Church is not.

    And I say all of this as an entirely lapsed Catholic who does not believe at all in either of them... but if I had to pick one of whom to be more frightened, it would be Rick Santorum.

    "Don't ride in anything with a Capissen 38 engine. They fall right out of the sky." -- Kaywinnit Lee Frye

    by Technowitch on Tue Mar 06, 2012 at 02:24:41 AM PST

    •  While your first paragraph is true (4+ / 0-)

      the Catholic bishops were not the impetus to Congressional hearings, lawsuits by state attorneys general or proposed legislation against any of these issues. Nor do they withhold or threaten to withhold communion from those who disagree with these positions nor does the USCCB and all the Catholic Conference state level lobbying organizations, the Knights of Columbus etc etc throw their fortunes behind these issues. In other words, follow the money not the words.

    •  Tech, those days are over. They are abandoning (1+ / 0-)
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      those things completely to focus on women's suppression via elevation of the embryo and continued prohibition on birth control. The social justice teachings don't maintain the prelate's power and money like abortion and uniting with Rethugs does. It's a pity. They've traded moral authority for riches and power.

      Now, who was it that railed against entrenched institutional power, again? ....there was an overturning of tables in the Temple...? I can't recall. And neither does the Vatican.

      Those fakes and frauds talk the Jesus talk, but they walk the Ayn Rand walk. Kossack Joe Bacon 7 February 2012

      by CoExistNow on Tue Mar 06, 2012 at 05:04:07 AM PST

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      •  Exactly! (1+ / 0-)
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        And if we diminish the Vatican's ability to influence other governments, their wealthy donors will find more productive organizations to impose a corporatist government, and then the Catholic Church might even be Christian again.

        •  Has Santorum ever said that he accepts the (0+ / 0-)

          authority of Benedict XVI as a "true" pope? Or, is he essentially a sedevacantist who believes the Seat of Peter is vacant?

          Eliminate tax breaks that stimulate the offshoring of jobs.

          by RJDixon74135 on Tue Mar 06, 2012 at 07:02:54 AM PST

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          •  Santorum accepts Benedict XVI (2+ / 0-)
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            and is not a sedevacantist. Sedevacantists claim that every pope elected since 1958 (i.e. beginning with John XXIII) have not been "true" popes.

            Santorum attends mass at an "official" parish which means its under the authority of the bishop who is under the authority of the pope. Santorum also attended the celebration in Rome of the 100th anniversary of the birth of the founder of Opus Dei, which means he supported Pope John Paul II also who had given Opus Dei the title of personal prelature and basically handed financial control of the Vatican to them.

    •  They Whine About Justice, But They Fight Only for (2+ / 0-)
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      power and sex control.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Tue Mar 06, 2012 at 05:36:35 AM PST

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      •  It's not about sex (0+ / 0-)

        As Michigan Congressman Stupak noted in 2010 after arduously working to make the health care bill acceptable to the Catholic bishops: "Ultimately, what stings the that people tried to use abortion as a tool to stop health-care reform, even after protections were added. That realization has stayed with me in the weeks since."

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