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  •  2000 and 2004 (4+ / 0-)

    With the electronic voting machines and the GOP Rubber Stamp Congress written and signed into law

    Help America Vote Act of 2002

    which I couldn't find any successful amendments to since 2002 (if you know of any improvements made, let me know)

    why would anyone have confidence in an honest election process?

    It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

    by War on Error on Tue Mar 06, 2012 at 09:45:15 AM PST

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    •  Again, there were almost no electronic machines (2+ / 0-)
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      in use in Ohio in 2004.  Very very very few. They peaked in the 2006 and 2008 elections and many counties are now mothballing them.

      I am in Cuyahoga — Cleveland — and we voted on punchcards in 2004. Sorry to burst that particular conspiracy bubble, but it's just not true. (There were other factors that lead me to believe the election was stolen in Ohio and should have been won by John Kerry, but not that factor).

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

      by anastasia p on Tue Mar 06, 2012 at 09:52:40 AM PST

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      •  you better let google, nyt, and wiki know about (0+ / 0-)

        your conspiracy theory......

      •  Cuyahoga used special tactics (6+ / 0-)

        from the Conyers report, page 56

        In Cuyanoga County, each precinct rotates candidate ballot position.

        Therefore, each ballot must go into a machine calibrated for its own precinct in order for the voter's intent to be counted.

        In these anomalous precincts, ballots were fed into the wrong machine, switching Kerry votes into third party votes.

        This was done on the advice of poll workers who told voters that they could insert their ballots into ANY open machine - and machines were not clearly marked indicating that they would work ONLY for their designated precinct.

        Blackwell refused to investigate.

        It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

        by War on Error on Tue Mar 06, 2012 at 10:07:16 AM PST

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        •  That happened with several hundred votes (0+ / 0-)

          and that CLEARLY was pollworker error in an area (i think it was Benedctine HS) where even the "Republican" pollworkers were probably really Democrats. Do you know how many votes are cast in Cuyahoga?  This was just a screw-up not an attempt at stealing votes.

          The "special tactics" used in Cuyahoga (also Franklin County and select college campsues) were pretty simple: under-allocate machines and create 4, 5 and 6 hour lines that people with hourly wage jobs cannot afford to wait in, especially in the icy rain we had that day here.

          Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

          by anastasia p on Tue Mar 06, 2012 at 11:39:04 AM PST

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          •  Not according to the Conyers report (0+ / 0-)

            I provide links to support the information I present.

            It would be very helpful if you did, too.

            I'm not quite sure why it seems like you are defending Ken Blackwell's election tactics of 2004.

            It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

            by War on Error on Tue Mar 06, 2012 at 11:42:54 AM PST

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            •  I have read thousands of pages (0+ / 0-)

              of reports by many people including Conyers since 2005. I don't need to revisit all the research I've been imbibing for years. Only a (relative) handful of voters were flipping in this fashion and ALL were due to pollworker error. There is absolutely no way on earth that Republican operatives for Ken Blackwell went into a heavily Democratic errors and guided pollworkers to send voters to the wrong precinct.

              I am not "defending Ken Blackwell." As usual, I am trying to separate facts from speculation and things that genuinely were innocent screw-ups, so that our entire case isn't dismissed because we're trying to pin things on him he didn't do. I have been doing this now for seven years. I KNOW what Ken Blackwell's 2004 election tactics were and what they weren't. And this wasn't one of them. It would be an incredibly inefficient way to game an election, and he had a much more efficient way at his fingertips: creating long lines and lack of timely access to the voting booth.

              Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

              by anastasia p on Tue Mar 06, 2012 at 02:20:32 PM PST

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