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  •  I've heard it enough. They ask you to point to (0+ / 0-)

    the part of the Bible where Jesus said that the government should provide for the poor.

    They say he was talking about each one of us as individuals doing our part to help each other, not the government providing it for free.

    •  Except - (0+ / 0-)

      The Bible isn't the document that founded this nation, and while applicable to millions of Americans in a personal context, it is NOT applicable to how this country was founded or the principles on which it operates.  The Preamble pretty much sums up the guiding principles and the Founder's intent:

      We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
      (emphasis added.)

      And I always have to remind people who argue against social programs that we're not a Christian nation, but at the same time assuming for arguments sake we were, I hardly believe that if Jesus did exist, he'd be against welfare or medicaid.  

      •  Not saying he would either, but that's just (1+ / 0-)
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        one person speculating about a mythical character in a book cobbled together from a bunch of stories written thousands of years ago.

        I was simply speaking to the meme "Christians against a social safety net aren't real Christians because Jesus believed in helping the poor and sick."

        "Real" Christians reject this argument saying the Bible does not argue for governmental involvement, just each individual's efforts.

        •  Oh, okay - (0+ / 0-)

          I may have mistook your point then.  And I agree. They are all about charity in theory, not in practice...

          •  Geez, didn't want to defend, but "they" do (0+ / 0-)

            engage in actual charity, and lot's of it.

            They just disagree that the government should be the one providing it.

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