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  •  The delegate math (1+ / 0-)
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    is why Santorum has no chance.

    No winner takes all means wins don't make up much ground for Santorum.

    Winner take all in Cali, NY, Utah and other good Romney states and none in good Santorum states makes it impossible for Santorum.

    •  however (4+ / 0-)

      he may not earn enough delegates to win it outright. paul is even very cleverly working the caucus states to win disproportionate numbers of delegates. add that to gingrich and santorum, and romney may have to make some deals.

      The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

      by Laurence Lewis on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 03:14:49 PM PST

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      •  I doubt it (6+ / 0-)

        But every deal ends up with Romney the nominee.

        I agree with kos' analysis that the GOP has made a mess for itself, but the mess still ends up with Romney the nominee.

        It MIGHT have been different if Santorum won Michigan and Ohio, not because of delegates, but because then Santorum would have to get more GOP establishment support and less tilt against him.

        It's a shame, cuz Santorum loses by 10 to Obama and the Dems win the Congress.

        Even still, the longer the better for us.

        Every week of this hurts the GOP.

        •  romney wins (3+ / 0-)

          but it continues to be a mess, maybe even with some bruised feelings.

          santorum never really had a chance because the gop establishment would have found a way to take him down. but i think an obama win over romney is better than over santorum, because it can't be dismissed as but an easy win over a fringe head case. it's a smackdown to the myth of the moderate republican, and further proof of the gop's deeper and wider and more permanent problems.

          The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

          by Laurence Lewis on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 03:25:36 PM PST

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          •  I appreciate what you're saying, but (0+ / 0-)

            I think it's actually more likely the opposite.

            McCain was the moderate last time and we got the old "not evil enough" routine from the GOP base and so they pushed for maximum resistance.  I think they would likely do the same this time around.  I'd rather the mouth-breathers get their guy, see him fight the good fight and get creamed.   Then the few remaining relatively sane people in the GOP could assert themselves somewhat and even (gasp!) cross party lines once in a while.

            Ceterum censeo Factionem Republicanam esse delendam.

            by journeyman on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 03:58:09 PM PST

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            •  that's fine, too (1+ / 0-)
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              mccain's loss was blamed on palin and on bush- there were easy excuses. romney's makes it twice in a row for the supposed gop moderates. but if the party reacts by more fully and finally embracing the hard right extreme, all the better...

              The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

              by Laurence Lewis on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 04:50:12 PM PST

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              •  Again, I can see where you're coming from (0+ / 0-)

                but unless we clean up in November, something I hope to do, but I am not willing to stake the future on, we need to break the far right.  A Romney loss will not do that.  A Santorum loss will.

                Ceterum censeo Factionem Republicanam esse delendam.

                by journeyman on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 07:59:43 PM PST

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    •  He doesn't have to reach 50% himself (8+ / 0-)

      He just has to arrive at a convention where, on the first ballot, Romney doesn't win.

      And then the deal making starts.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'ya aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il ya toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 03:15:49 PM PST

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