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View Diary: Rep. Steny Hoyer still pushing pivot back to austerity (86 comments)

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  •  what facts do you (0+ / 0-)

    have to support this?

    •  Health care reform negotiations (0+ / 0-)

      It happened regularly as Hoyer would meet w/ the WH, then undermine something that Pelosi, Levin and others were working on.

      IIRC, it happened w/ the public option, implementation date (2013 vs. 2014), medical loss ratio restriction levels, etc.

      •  i do not deny (0+ / 0-)

        that there were problems with the negotations and pharma deals.  

        You are more than legitimate about that.

        Let me also add that the HCR is a lot better than you think IN SPITE of the negotiations. I know you are really skeptical about the HCR, but there are so many indications that HCR was MORE than worth it.

        You should read my diary and the links titled "Some shocking obamacares facts"

        Most importantly, single payer WILL be the end product of obamacares. An aetna ceo admitted that. When juxtaposed with the fact that obama provided some funds for Vermont's developing single payer system, it shows that Obama really does want single payer for all americans. It also reinforces what Obama believed about single payer in that "it will come long-term".  

        http://www.dailykos.com/...

        His heart has always been in the right place in spite of problems in governing and approaching issues/politics.

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