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  •  Really? (2+ / 0-)
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    On the other hand, education students are on average the worst students in any college freshman class, and they're still the worst in any graduating class.
    Based on what? Standardized test results?

    Scores on a standardized test does not judge one's capacity to become an expert teacher...

    Your premise is full of bullshit...

    Educational experience based on behaviorism is mind control.

    by semioticjim on Sat Mar 10, 2012 at 10:17:23 AM PST

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    •  Yes, by every measure, look it up (0+ / 0-)

      There are:

      1. Standardized entrance tests
      2. GRE's
      3. Grades
      4. Class rank
      5. Entrance requirements for their major

      etc.

      By every measurable criterion, education students are the worst students in college, with physical education being the worst of the worst.

      Why would you deny obvious data? Do you also deny climate change? The American birth of our president? Is this how we roll now?

      •  actually the data is very much out of date (1+ / 0-)
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        as increasingly many schools/colleges of education change how they do things.  At University of Maryland College Park, for which the school at which I teach is a professional development school, students are not admitted to the school until the end of their sophomore year, and entrance is competitive, although not as competitive as in Finland, from which this model is in part derived.   Students are in the upper half (usually significantly so) of their cohort.

        One problem with raising the standards is that training education students and offering the courses for continuing education required to maintain certification is a cash cow for many colleges and universities.  And if they have the right political connections, state departments do not dare take away their right to certify.  Thus you have the ridiculousness of some real right-wing places like Liberty in Virginia actually able to certify science and biology teachers.

        "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

        by teacherken on Mon Mar 12, 2012 at 03:02:45 AM PDT

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        •  This is encouraging, thank you! (0+ / 0-)

          I'm very glad that the University of Maryland is doing this, and I hope it becomes the norm in the US. This could make a huge difference for our children and our society.

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