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  •  Good Post. (44+ / 0-)

    The reality of the bible is that no matter what you believe, it can be used to justify literally anything you want.

    The bible says that the Earth is our domain, that we're keepers of the garden, that we're supposed to protect the things we own and be responsible, and help them grow and improve,  but it also has verses that can be used to justify the opposite.

    Remember, this is an old conservative tactic. It's the cut and paste bible. Pick three verses that you think justify your position and repeat them over and over again ad nauseum.

    They used it to justify first slavery, then separation and mistreatment of black people. They used and are using it against women.

    And again, it's cut and paste.

    Far be it for people talking about ultimate truths to accept that things are often more complicated than we make them out to be.

    An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail.

    by OllieGarkey on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 10:13:44 AM PDT

    •  Ever notice, too, that nearly all the quotes are (25+ / 0-)

      either from the old testament or from every part of the new testament except the four gospels, which are supposed to be the cornerstone of their faith? These "Christians" give the teachings of their supposed savior and Lord Jesus Christ as wide a berth as they can manage, simply because so much of what Christ taught goes against their self-centered smug view of their place in the world.

      A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. - Greek proverb

      by marleycat on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 10:41:59 AM PDT

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    •  West Wing: Bartlet quotes Scripture (4+ / 0-)

      When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 10:47:37 AM PDT

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    •  That's a major point they like to ignore... (15+ / 0-)

          We are required, (in the oft-ignored New Testament,) to be "good stewards" of our dominion. That would imply, among other things, not destroying it through neglect or overt action.
           What's even worse is that some of these folks are eagerly awaiting the "End Times," and believe that they can help bring them to pass by causing chaos in the world. They read what the world is supposed to be like during the "End Times" and assume that if the world is like they imagine it will be, then obviously the rest will follow, and the "End Times" will take place.
           That's actually at the root of a lot of a lot of the Evangelical support of Israel. They don't like the Jews, but the Bible says "Israel must be restored." They believe that that requires restoration of the Biblical borders of Israel, which they interpret as the borders that existed after the 1967 war. So returning more-or-less to the pre-1967 borders, and in particular turning over the West Bank and Gaza to a Palestinian state, would interfere with God's plan for the "End Times."
          The whole concept is actually heresy, in the strict use of the term, since the one clear statement in the whole Bible about the "End Times" is that no one will know when they are coming. Beyond that, to think that humans can actually influence an "all-powerful" God into deciding that now would be the right time, since they've screwed things up so much that the world might as well be destroyed anyway, is simply ludicrous by their own standards. If humans have violated the express command to be "good stewards" that badly, the results of the "Final Judgement" couldn't be anything we would hope for.  

      -5.12, -5.23

      We are men of action; lies do not become us.

      by ER Doc on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 11:02:06 AM PDT

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      •  If the old testament was truly ignored... (3+ / 0-)
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        ...we wouldn't hear so much about certain "abominations." =)

        "Mitt Romney isn't a vulture capitalist: vultures only eat things that are dead." -S. Colbert

        by newinfluence on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 01:16:02 PM PDT

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      •  Heresy, or Apostasy? (5+ / 0-)

        Maybe both.

        We are required, (in the oft-ignored New Testament,) to be "good stewards" of our dominion. That would imply, among other things, not destroying it through neglect or overt action.
             During the first Creation story in Genesis, the writer says, several times, that "..God looked at his creation and it was good." How can certain Christians  rationalize using it up, with no concern for replacing it unless more profit can be made, or using portions of it (fossil fuel) so quickly that it causes potential destruction, unless they have abandoned the core of their faith? That is apostasy.
        What's even worse is that some of these folks are eagerly awaiting the "End Times," and believe that they can help bring them to pass by causing chaos in the world. They read what the world is supposed to be like during the "End Times" and assume that if the world is like they imagine it will be, then obviously the rest will follow, and the "End Times" will take place.
        Again, abandoning one's faith. First, as noted, Christ said that no one knows the actual end date, the beginning of those "End Times," so to attempt to advance that date, as you say, Hunter, is presumption of the highest order. It also shows a serious lack of faith in God's control, it shows enormous pride (sin number one in the list of Ten) in thinking that any humans can advance what only God, according to Christ, (as you say) has knowledge of, and no belief in God's timing over the fate of his world. Such folks are lost, and are far from "getting" the Scriptures that they claim to live by. I pray for their frightened souls.

        So, let me extrapolate in a different direction from Scripture, in a manner counter to what Inhofe is doing:

        God saw that his creation was good, but us Evangelicals are going ignore the obvious meaning of the word good, and twist it to mean that it's essentially only good if we exploit it, profit from it. Thus, by lack of faith, we condemn ourselves.

        Finally, what I believe drives a lot of the motivations of the "End Timers" is fear of their own deaths, so by speeding up the "End Times" through chaos they won't have to die! Again, lack of faith.

        So, it's not a stretch to call folks like Inhofe 'faithless heretics,' who totally ignore the Gospel call to love God, and love our neighbors as we love ourselves. Of course, that 'commandment' doesn't seem to work very well with people with sublimated self-loathing.

        "...for those that think death's honesty, won't fall upon them naturally, life sometimes must get lonely."

        ~Dylan "It's alright ma..."

        "We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other." ~ RFK

        by paz3 on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 02:22:25 PM PDT

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