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  •  what else corporate America requires... (7+ / 0-)

    .... is that you pull your pants down or pull your dress up, and give a working demonstration of your private parts, under the watchful gaze of your boss' surrogate, based on the excuse of ensuring that you haven't smoked pot on Saturday night.

    In mammalian instinct terms, baring your abdomen to the top dog is the gesture of absolute abject surrender.  It's what a dog does when it loses a fight with another dog.

    And you can be darn sure that this has played a role in making American workers more docile over the past two decades.  

    "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

    by G2geek on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 12:23:45 AM PDT

    •  Unfortunately (6+ / 0-)

      These sorts of provisions usually hit the bottom end a lot more than the top end.

      I have a law degree from a top 20 law school.  I've never once been asked to submit to a drug test by an employer.  I have had a provision in an employment contract giving my employer the right to do a random drug screen at any time, but I never actually had to do it; in fact, nobody at the workplace knew of anyone who had.  Rumor was that it was only in there so they could cover their asses if they suspected somebody was actually high at work.

      Why?  Well, I'm doing jobs that not a whole lot of people are qualified to do.

      Unfortunately, if you only have a high school diploma (or, God forbid, you dropped out), you're probably only qualified for jobs that just about anybody is qualified to do.  So you get bullshit like this.

      (Even greater irony: as a consumer, I care a lot more if my lawyer or the guy handling my investments is doing drugs than if the guy checking me out at the grocery store is; but guess which of these three is getting drug-tested?)

      27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

      by TDDVandy on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 12:36:46 AM PDT

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      •  Sorry..but, your argument doesn't wash (2+ / 0-)
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        TDDVandy, kyril

        I have a masters degree in advertising, which was a three-year intensive program, just as your legal education took to complete.  After twenty years of experience, working at a level that "not a whole lot of people are able to do", I have still been asked by Fortune 500 companies far more often than the couple of smaller ones I've worked for to take a drug test.  It's de riguer for any level of employee at most companies to have to submit to a drug test, including most law firms, as I know and work with several attorneys as well.  I've interviewed with CEO's who have joked about their having to pass the "piss test".  

        •  Ah, I see. (4+ / 0-)
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          elwior, G2geek, kyril, white blitz

          I've never worked for a Fortune 500, or even a large law firm, so perhaps my experience is colored by the fact that I've only worked for small employers (or myself.)

          I think it's bullshit, but I don't do drugs anyway, so I'm not personally affected by it.

          27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

          by TDDVandy on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 01:14:30 AM PDT

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          •  It's not just the illegal drugs (2+ / 0-)
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            get the red out, greengemini

            I don't do recreational drugs, but the drugs I need to take are between me and my doctor. Also companies have been known to illegally test for medical conditions like diabetes and pregnancy.

          •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

            I agree...I absolutely don't do drugs either (but I wouldn't mind taking a little pot now and then...but I don't...because of the fear of a random drug test that corporations always quietly threaten you with on the application).  It's just the principle... once you sign on the dotted line to become an "at will" employee, you sell a big part of yourself.  And now, it's getting worse.  

        •  you see what's going on here, right? (0+ / 0-)

          You have to show yours to the boss's surrogate, but the boss doesn't have to show his to anyone representing the workers.  

          Primal act of absolute submission.

          That's the real purpose of the whole exercise.  And the reason people are afraid to speak up about it is that in doing so they can be called out as the guy with the small one.  

          "Oh, look at you talking about unions!  You, who showed up for the drug test with a teeny weenie!  Fellas, are you going to follow a guy with a small one?"  Right.

          It's an amazingly barbaric ritual, like something you'd expect from a stone-age tribe that somehow got missed by history until discovered by anthropologists in a clearing somewhere, feasting on human entrails.  

          Makes me wonder how long it's going to be before a symbolic display of no-longer-private parts (public parts?) is going to replace the handshake, or more to the point the deep bow, as a formal greeting.  "Good morning, sir.  I'll show you mine," (pulls down pants), "and now I am at your service."

          As for me, telecoms engineer in private practice, and have never, and will not ever, pull my pants down for anyone except a doctor or a sex partner.  Not having had to "submit" to that stuff lets me view it with objectivity, and call it for what it is.  

          "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

          by G2geek on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 02:15:35 AM PDT

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