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  •  What You Said! (1+ / 0-)
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    dogemperor

    Except

    One way to challenge these frames is to ply the lever of cognitive dissonance, to make the discrepancy between the narratives that people are subjectively applying to themselves and the narratives that they are “objectively” living as inescapable as possible. And that means not only throwing well-reasoned arguments in their face, but rather throwing in their face well-reasoned arguments that challenge not particular policy positions but, more importantly, their own fundamental identity.
    Maybe it's an American trait, each citizen being able to define his own political reality, but I think it's been shown that many people (and I know a few) will never be convinced that they are mistaken.  The stronger your argument, the harder they hold their position. until further discussion is pointless.

    "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything even remotely true." -- H. Simpson

    by midnight lurker on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 06:40:41 PM PDT

    •  Yes, you're right, (1+ / 0-)
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      midnight lurker

      but "many people" is not the same as "all people," and moving their internal cognitive landscape even ever so slightly does not require them being convinced that they were mistaken. I think in terms of continua, and in terms of butterflies flapping their wings.... Marginal, even barely perceptible, movements can have cumulative dramatic effects. And when I consider the alternative, of balkanized ideological camps completely impervious to one another, I know to my own satisfaction which overall approach I think holds more promise.

      We're all in this story together. Let's write it well. http://coloradoconfluence.com/

      by Steve Harvey on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 07:56:21 PM PDT

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