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  •  Umm, there is audio of the whole thing... (1+ / 0-)
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    The judge certainly DID defend the muslims actions by explaining how deeply Muslims believe in their "faith".    

    The judge  had NO right to dress down the atheist, even though he was behaving boorishly.  

    The judge should resign, and study freedom of speech.

    I'll look for the audio link...

    Religion gives men the strength to do what should not be done.

    by bobtmn on Mon Mar 12, 2012 at 05:34:45 PM PDT

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    •  Umm, the video was ruled inadmissible. (0+ / 0-)
    •  Heres the audio.. Start at 28:41 (0+ / 0-)

      Go to 28:41 on the video and listen

      Religion gives men the strength to do what should not be done.

      by bobtmn on Mon Mar 12, 2012 at 05:48:56 PM PDT

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    •  The judge had every right to dress down... (0+ / 0-)

      ...the atheist.  It's his courtroom.  The dressing down by the judge is no different from the dressings down other judges give to people in their courtrooms every day.

      Muslims and tigers and bears, oh my!

      by JDsg on Mon Mar 12, 2012 at 06:23:11 PM PDT

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      •  it is NOT the judges courtroom (0+ / 0-)

        The judge sits to enforce the laws and constitution of the USA.   The atheist has freedom of speech.   The muslim does not have freedom not to be offended.

        The judge was acting outside his authority, and against the interests of all Americans to protect our freedom of speech.  We have a write speak our beliefs in America.  This is true even when the message is offensive ( like "God Hates Fags" )

        Incidentally, the policeman said the muslim admitted at the scene that he had put his hands on the victim, and then denied it in court.   In one of these cases, he was lying.    

        Religion gives men the strength to do what should not be done.

        by bobtmn on Tue Mar 13, 2012 at 07:15:37 AM PDT

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        •  Of course it is the judge's courtroom... (0+ / 0-)

          ...and should you forget or ignore that fact while in court the judge will gladly remind you with a contempt of court charge.  My advice:  don't tempt the judge.

          The atheist may have so-called "freedom of speech," but that was not the primary issue for this particular case; the issue was an assault charge, which was dismissed for lack of evidence.

          While the Muslim should not have touched the atheist in the first place, the judge was right in my opinion to have admonished the atheist as he did.  The atheist may have had the right to act provocatively, but he showed the world just how low a character he actually possesses.  He should be thankful that all he received was a lecture from the judge.  In this country (Singapore), a similar act by this man would result in a jail term under the charge of sedition (several people have learned this the hard way).

          Just because something is legal does not mean it's the right thing to do.  It's remarkable how many people find that difficult to understand.

          Muslims and tigers and bears, oh my!

          by JDsg on Tue Mar 13, 2012 at 09:13:03 AM PDT

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          •  In America, we have freedom (0+ / 0-)

            What you do in Singapore is not relevant.   You clearly do not understand what civil rights even means.  

            I am glad I do not live in your country.  

            Religion gives men the strength to do what should not be done.

            by bobtmn on Tue Mar 13, 2012 at 09:24:00 AM PDT

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            •  PS: (0+ / 0-)

              I'm an American expat; I understand civil rights.  My Singaporean wife understands civil rights as well, as do other Singaporeans. Please don't make a fool of yourself any further.  And we're glad you're not here either.

              Muslims and tigers and bears, oh my!

              by JDsg on Tue Mar 13, 2012 at 10:12:42 AM PDT

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