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  •  Try this on for size (4+ / 0-)
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    This recent column by Chris Hedges about whistle blowers and the use of the espionage act to shut off the  Americans knowing what the government is doing.

    •  But aren't you implying that this isn't (1+ / 0-)
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      whistleblowing, it's just simple satirical blogging that is protected per Pickering?

      Today, strive to be the person you want to be.

      by GoGoGoEverton on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 07:10:53 AM PDT

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    •  Top Secret America (5+ / 0-)

      We live in a country that has over 850,000 people holding
      top secret security clearances. That is chilling enough, but to have these whistleblowers charged under the Espionage act and to remain silent, as we watch our liberties being swept away is even more so.

      The Supreme Court has yet to hear a leak case involving the Espionage Act.

      But one of these six cases will probably soon reach the court. If it, as expected, rules that the government is permitted to use the Espionage Act against whistle-blowers, the United States will have a de facto official secrets act.

      A ruling in favor of the government would instantly criminalize all disclosures of classified information to the public. It would shut down one of the most important functions of the press. And at that point any challenges to the official versions of events would dry up.

      Pentagon Papers Daniel Ellsberg, “It was always a bad year to get out of Vietnam.”

      by allenjo on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 07:11:02 AM PDT

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      •  No doubt people with Security Clearances (3+ / 0-)
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        say and do things that could be considered "bad judgment" or "in poor taste" every day.

        And I'm not even talking about the people who are violating the basic human rights and dignities of others by urniating on dead bodies.

        Certainly, these marines are more due discipline than Peter Van Buren.

        My book, TRAITOR: THE WHISTLEBLOWER & THE "AMERICAN TALIBAN," is Amazon's #1 Best Seller in Human Rights Books for February 2012.

        by Jesselyn Radack on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 07:16:10 AM PDT

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    •  Thanks for that link Don, much important (3+ / 0-)

      information for those of us that care more about the direction of our country with these actions than those who get upset that Obama has been insulted.

      And if Bush was still president, how would we feel about these actions? Perhaps it would be that "this behavior is WAY out of line?"

      “Unauthorized disclosures are the lifeblood of the republic,” Ellsberg said. “You cannot have a meaningful democracy where the public only has authorized disclosures from the government.

      If they [officials] get control, if they can prosecute anybody who violates that, you are kidding yourself if you think you have any kind of democratic control over foreign policy, national security and homeland security. We don’t have a democracy now in foreign affairs and national security. We have a monarchy tempered by leaks. Cut off the leaks and we don’t even have that.”

      Pentagon Papers Daniel Ellsberg, “It was always a bad year to get out of Vietnam.”

      by allenjo on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 07:52:50 AM PDT

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