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  •  Erm. I think we were deported (3+ / 0-)
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    Fe Bongolan, NonnyO, mariva

    en mass or made conversos or maranos in 1492. So I think that was a wave of forced emigration. Oh, silly me, you're talking about the US.

    Please read and enjoy my novella, Tulum, available in soft cover and eBook formats.

    by davidseth on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 04:25:24 PM PDT

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    •  Some made it to Holland (2+ / 0-)
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      It was the only country that had any amount of religious tolerance at the time.

      About 125 years later, some of my Separatist English ancestors went to Holland, also for religious freedom reasons (then some found their way here on the Mayflower).

      There was also a group of Dutch who settled in southeastern NY state (New Amsterdam) ca 1630 and shortly thereafter.  I have ancestors among them, too.

      I have ancestors from seven different countries that I can document, but when I was young and cute and had all my dark hair to compliment my dark eyes, you wouldn't believe how many times I was asked if I am part Jewish, Spanish, or Italian because of my looks, and in spite of my Scandinavian surname.  Not that I know of.  If I am part Jewish, it's from a point in time when records were not kept and I can't prove it.

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 04:52:35 PM PDT

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      •  Two ideas come to mind: (3+ / 0-)
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        1. DNA testing does some of the deep research that genealogy can't do. So you have African Americans who can find out where there ancesters came from in Africa. And you have Jews who are trying to determine genetically whether they were descended from Moses's brother Aaron.

        2. I have no records before my ancestors came to the US from Romania and Minsk in the late 19th Century. I can find all the towns they were from, but no records in those towns about them. V disconcerting. Which brings me back to no. 1 above.

        Please read and enjoy my novella, Tulum, available in soft cover and eBook formats.

        by davidseth on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 06:33:12 PM PDT

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        •  As far as I know... (0+ / 0-)

          ... from when I was on a DNA genealogy list, the big topic was y-DNA, and I'd have to have a male member of my family with the same ancestors to discover that info.  If I asked, I'd likely get a negative answer, even if I could afford to pay for the test myself (which I can't).

          My mtDNA goes from me, through my mother, maternal grandmother, maternal gr-grandmother and maternal gr-gr-grandmother and so on to a little island in Denmark where I have records for my Danish ancestors, and I don't know where before that because those records run out.

          If ever a test can be invented to determine the more detailed answers I need from just my mtDNA sample alone - and the prices come down considerably - then I'll reconsider a DNA test.

          Maybe.

          I don't trust US corporate labs that test DNA to keep private information private.  Perhaps if I could find a foreign lab that respects privacy and does not share my info with US corporate labs, then maybe I'll do something about a DNA test.  [I'm a senior citizen.  Time is not on my side.  I plan to live to age 100 with a clear mind, but that's only 34 years from now and I have health issues.]

          I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

          by NonnyO on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 07:15:19 PM PDT

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