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  •  Best thing I ever did: leave the Roman Church. (7+ / 0-)

    Here's an example, and it's right here in the diary: 11 Bishops for 2.6 million Catholics in Ohio. How many priests are there? I bet not enough, but there are 11 Bishops.

    The number of Roman Catholics in Ohio is nearly as many as are baptized members of the Episcopal Church, which has 300 Bishops--active and retired--in its House of Bishops, part of the bicameral legislature which helps govern the denomination (the other house is the House of Deputies, which is made up of layfolk, priests, and religious [monks/nuns])

    So the Roman Catholic Church has all this influence and they only have 11 bishops for 2.6 million Catholics in  a couple of Dioceses in Ohio and a slightly lower number of Episcopalians have 300 Bishops?

    How does the Catholic Church get to be more powerful when we have more people in copes and mitres than they do? Ahhh, I get it. Episcopalians aren't sexy because they tend to leave people's personal lives up to them and have, like women and gay people and stuff. See? Liberalism isn't sexy. This proves it.


    Santorum: Man on Dog; Romney: Dog on Car. Ren and Stimpy: Dog on Cat

    by commonmass on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 02:42:25 PM PDT

    •  If the Episcopal church would put as much (1+ / 0-)
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      effort into telling members what issues are most important when voting as the Catholics do, they might have similar influence.

      Once again showing that separation of church and state protects both sides. Once you start seeking political power it starts seeking you.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 02:52:40 PM PDT

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    •  Episcopal bishops function differently (2+ / 0-)
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      They are not lords making pronouncements and covering things up. Our bishop is busy bicycling for worthy causes. Our local Catholic bishop is busy closing churches and now making pissy noises about appealing the Vatican's decision to reopen 13 of them.

      Last week one of our bishops (we have several retired ones) came and confirmed and received some people including two elderly women on walkers. The woman next to me leaned over and said, "I'll bet they're former Catholics, just like me!"

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

      by anastasia p on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 03:12:27 PM PDT

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      •  Episcopal Bishops are elceted by the (0+ / 0-)

        people they serve. Yes, in that way they are very, very different. If you've never been a delegate to your Diocesan Convention, get yourself elected by your parish and GO.

        Yes, ECUSA is a bit top-heavy and all, but there's a lot of democracy. If you want to see a church informed by the enlightenment and specifically by the War of Independence, look towards the Episcopal Church. In many ways, we govern like the State governs.

        I am proud to say that our Presiding Bishop/Primate is the amazing and broad thinking ++Katherine Jefforts-Schori. Yep. A woman. An amazing one.

        Santorum: Man on Dog; Romney: Dog on Car. Ren and Stimpy: Dog on Cat

        by commonmass on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 03:22:21 PM PDT

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    •  And never doubt that climbing the ecclesiastical (1+ / 0-)
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      ladder is the same a climbing the corporate ladder.  There is a reason your parish priest is warm and caring and not a bishop.

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