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  •  And these forced birth church ladies really want (14+ / 0-)

    the single woman to give their child up for adoption because there are so many couples waiting for white babies.  

    There is a big push for single women in Evangelical churches to go the adoption route and I think most are selfish and heartless about it. They put a lot of pressure on these ladies and girls for adoption because some of them want to adopt or their childless friends do and they think we need more babies up for adoption.

    Keep in mind, these church ladies want more white babies up for adoption but do not recommend adopting one of the 100 k older children over 3 that are up for adoption at most anytime in this country.  

    •  My older SIL is like that (6+ / 0-)

      She's not rabidly anti-abortion but she is pro-life--because she had trouble conceiving, miscarried twice, and then had to spend several months of her two successful pregnancies in bed. She wanted four kids, only had two.  I wanted to tell her that just because she had problems with pregnancy doesn't mean some other woman should be forced to continue an unwanted pregnancy. I kept my mouth shut because we were both living in MiL's home at the time.

      DH wasn't so kind when she asked him why we hadn't had kids.  HE pointed out that, because their father had been a physically and emotionally abusive asshole,  the success rate of the kids int he family wasn't exactly  thrilling--the two older nieces are beeyatches and meanmeanmean people.  Since one of the nieces is hers, she was irate.

      The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

      by irishwitch on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 05:53:00 PM PDT

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    •  The subject of babies for adoption has been (4+ / 0-)
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      a little more frequent in various women groups in my county as of late. Especially when a number of large churches throughout the state sponsor unwed mother homes--Help is provided, but the mother has to agree to give up the baby in a private adoption. Texas has some of the most lax private adoption laws in the nation. I kid you not, it's amazingly easy if the would be parents can afford to pay the "fees".  I hate to wade into those waters, but it's a reality. No question about it.

      •  Some prospective parents pay fees (5+ / 0-)

        while others make "love offerings" to their local Crisis Pregnancy Center.

        Young women who have mistaken some CPC for a pro-choice agency are often put under a lot of pressure to make private adoption arrangements. One told me about the "counselor" at a CPC taking a sheaf of papers with lists of names and addresses out of a desk drawer.  

        She was told, "Don't even think about having an abortion. You'd be sorry for the rest of your life. And any of these couples would love to adopt your baby and give it a fine Christian home. Just pick a name, any name on this list. I'll call them, and they'll come straight over here to meet you, right now."

        It's a huge racket.

        "Texas is going to shrink government until it fits into a woman's uterus." -- Texas State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte

        by moiv on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 08:34:30 PM PDT

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      •  Must have changed recently (3+ / 0-)

        Texas used to be so problematic that a lot of kids ended up in orphanages because they grew up before a qualified couple was found. For example, we had friends who had to prove they were members in good standing of a religious congregation.

        "There's a crack in everything; that's how the light gets in". Leonard Cohen

        by northsylvania on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 04:40:19 AM PDT

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        •  A case I read recently of an adoptive father in MN (2+ / 0-)
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          who adopted children from Texas.  The adoptive father was offering up his son for sex to at least two other men.  I think that he had been allowed to adopt 3 children from the state, two boys and a girl.  He was charged and I think convicted along with the two other men.  Apparently Texas still has problems with adoptions.

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