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  •  Are there studies to (dis)prove this man's theory (9+ / 0-)

    Whenever I hear someone express that sentiment, I remember a comment I heard from a valedictorian's speech:  I'm paraphrasing, but he basically said that no one ever guessed without prompting that he was the child of same-gender parents.  

    If you follow that father's logic, then it would stand to reason that if there is something inherently "unnatural" about raising a child in this manner, then the grown child must have some identifying feature that makes him/her stick out as not "normal."  But if you were to mix up a bunch of these kids within a group of other kids, I would bet this man would be utterly unable to identify which is which-- which were raised "naturally" and which were raised "unnaturally" in his opinion.

    To your knowledge are there such studies?

    •  Not to my knowledge. (3+ / 0-)
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      A very interesting question, to be sure. Anyone else know of any studies?

      Now are the days we've been working for.

      by StrangeAnimals on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 01:28:11 PM PDT

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    •  Yes (7+ / 0-)

      There's this:

      And there was a more recent study that showed lesbian couples have the lowest risk (actually virtually zero) of sexual or physical abuse of children.  Don't have the link handy; read it about three months ago.

      There is zero evidence that a parent's sexual orientation has any effect on the child... sexual orientation is probably largely biologically determined, but is not a matter of a single gene or two.  A lesbian or gay biological parent's child may possibly be more likely to have a same-sex orientation, but there's no evidence to date.  An adopted kid has a random chance of being gay or lesbian.  Many, many kids raised by gay or lesbian parents are straight.  

      “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

      by ivorybill on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 01:41:53 PM PDT

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      •  Not talking about sexual orientation of the kids.. (3+ / 0-)

        I'm wondering whether there is some test of this father's implied theory-- that from an objective perspective he would be able to perceive something "wrong" with a child that had been raised so "unnaturally."  Surely if he "feels sorry" for such kids, then they must possess some obviously discernible trait as a result of this harrowing upbringing.  So I'd like to put him to the test -- give him 100 people and ask him to pick out those among the group who were "unnaturally" raised.  Bet he couldn't do it with any more accuracy than guessing, but that's just my gut.  Was wondering if there is any scientific study to back that up.

        •  I know of no studies (2+ / 0-)

          But it would be hard to identify what criteria one would use for unnatural or not normal.  I suspect the Christianist fanatic would define normal in terms of his religion and his religious beliefs.  A kid who grows up free of that indoctrination would probably be perceived as immoral or unnatural.

          In terms of anything that matters - physical health, school achievement, socialization, etc - I seriously doubt that there would be any demonstrable difference.  But I don't know of any studies.

          “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

          by ivorybill on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 02:56:12 PM PDT

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      •  In fact, this was an issue in the prop 8 case (7+ / 0-)

        If I recall, when it was time to prove this allegation up in court, the proponents were unable to produce evidence to support the proposition.  It wasn't a high bar, legally, but they were unable to even meet that.  

        If I remember right, anyway.

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