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  •  Reread, please (0+ / 0-)

    You claimed to respect Catholic choice and belief. Clearly you don't. There is no sign whatever of genuine respect for religious belief in what you wrote or in your response. Your argument essentially is that religious belief, however sincere, must stand aside in order to be measured and judged by your political beliefs.

    I'm not arguing that this is untenable, only that you clearly don't understand what your position entails—which you don't.

    You would remake religion to suit your political opinions. But it is precisely the nature of religion, of Catholicism in particular, to claim its authority as divine revelation. You obviously have no truck with that. If you were capable of following your position to its conclusion, you would eventually arrive at the (to you) perfectly reasonable decision that what is taught in schools must conform to what you decide is rational. E.g., if Catholic doctrine is unfriendly to homosexuality, if it teaches that it is an evil, that is hate speech; we must not teach children hateful beliefs; we must therefore prevent such teaching.

    I don't know that you are up to following that rather simple argument, given that all you do so far is yell, "paranoia." But I suppose that is also a measure of your respect.

    •  Quit telling me what I'd do, (0+ / 0-)

      who I am, and what I believe.  You don't know me.  I have no need to remake anyone's religion to suit my political opinions. Which btw, are also my VALUES.  I have my own spiritual beliefs which I am quite comfortable with and assume others are comfortable with theirs.  

      When the Catholic doctrine says homosexuality is evil, I will fight to see it is not hoisted on people who are not Catholic and don't choose those values---as in creating laws that block others civil rights. I, along with the founding fathers, believe in the separation of church and state.  So whatever anyone wants to believe is fine with me as long as they don't insist I believe the same or try to put their religious beliefs into laws I have to follow.

      Your condescension and arrogance is so thick you could cut it with a knife, so don't talk to me about respect.

      •  I stand advised (0+ / 0-)

        You get to tell me I'm nuts and paranoid, but I don't get to point out your little problems. If you're through with that knife, you might use it to smear around your own coating of self-righteous—some of the ignorance is showing through the cracks. But you just have yourself a blessed day.

        •  Those "little problems" (0+ / 0-)

          you refer to are called opinions.  I stated mine and you came a long and ran your little truck right into me with a bunch of YES, nutty and paranoid stuff about how I'm out to end the Catholic church.

          In any case, let's not meet like this again.  I find you very unpleasant, as you do me.  So many great people here, no need to waste another minute on each other.

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