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  •  Did you see my Daily Beast piece on this? (7+ / 0-)

    The Fall of the House of Murdoch -with Eric Lewis ready by June. Get your name in the book.

    by Brit on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 02:56:46 PM PDT

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    •  Yes, and now I see the word legal appears in it (4+ / 0-)
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      The Tory government was legally bound to refer the bid to the Monopolies and Mergers Commission. It should have been dead in the water.
      Which implies for me, as in 1981, so in 2011.

      You wonder if we will wait 30 years to have the truth out about 2011.

      I have a speculative proposal for you, in the next comment

      "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

      by BlueStateRedhead on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 03:28:23 PM PDT

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      •  If there is something in a name, OfCom is onto it (7+ / 0-)

        They have an investigation of the propriety of JM's Chairmanship of Sky on going.

        Its name is Operation Apple. Which seems providential, even prophetic, for it implies an ipso facto recognition of the proverbial wisdom that

        The apple does not usually fall too far from the tree

        "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

        by BlueStateRedhead on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 03:32:30 PM PDT

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      •  Their get out under Shawcross legislation (9+ / 0-)

        ...was that the takeover of a paper didn't have to be referred if the alternative was closure.

        The Times and Sunday Times were completely separate papers, and only brought into the same company in 1966 when Lord Thompson, owner of the ST, bought The Times.

        In 1979 the ST was very profitable but the Times was losing money. In 1980, a series of strikes caused the Sunday Times to make a small loss one quarter.

        Thatcher and Murdoch used that sliver of an excuse to avoid referral to the Monopolies and Mergers Committee. However their joint confidante, Woodrow Wyatt, let the cat out of the bag in 1998 in his posthumous diaries:

        “I had all the rules bent for him [Murdoch]  over the Sunday Times and the Times when he bought them.... Through Margaret I got it arranged that the deal didn’t go to the Monopolies Commission which almost certainly would have blocked it.”

        The Fall of the House of Murdoch -with Eric Lewis ready by June. Get your name in the book.

        by Brit on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 03:34:11 PM PDT

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    •  Thanks For The Link (6+ / 0-)

      Just read your piece at the Daily Beast.  I still feel my knowledge of the scandal is cursory however.  I can't grasp what this means for the UK government if they're found to have improperly colluded with Newscorp to secure elections.  With my limited grasp of the implications of the scandal, it seems the press, in general, will be more affected than the government.

      Ezra Klein is my "freebie"

      by Skylarking on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 03:32:11 PM PDT

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      •  Not an election, a monopolizing purchase (7+ / 0-)

        The question is if there was any impropriety in providing Thatcher with the legal arguments in private conversation which allowed her government to permit the sale to go forward without regulatory review of a sale that was in infraction of the law prohibiting monopoly ownership of the press,

        and furthermore, in  conversations not revealed to the cabinet which made the decision.

        And if by analogy, if the private meetings with Cameron which led to the many moves on the part of his government favourable to the Murdoch bid to buy up the rest of BSkyB was illegal.

        There is one more thing, and then I alas have to depart the toobz

        "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

        by BlueStateRedhead on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 03:59:03 PM PDT

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        •  1 more thing. Cameron can fall, his gov. stays.... (5+ / 0-)
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          The Tory/Liberal coalition will not cease to lead the government if the PM, Cameron, ceases to be PM. No new elections are held.

          Now, what happens between members of coalition in case of the resignation or (I am guessing here) a vote of no confidence is beyond my pay grade even to google.

          "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

          by BlueStateRedhead on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 04:06:45 PM PDT

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          •  Weeeeeeel (4+ / 0-)
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            the guess is that If Cameron resigned, then the Lib Dems would need to see who they were going to end up with as new leader, You'd think that the Tory party would lurch to the right in response to the coalition straightjacket they have been living under, rather than the opportunity to fulfil their wildest lunatic dreams.

            Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

            by ceebs on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 04:33:55 PM PDT

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      •  well it's (3+ / 0-)
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        something that has us scratching our heads too

        Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

        by ceebs on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 03:59:24 PM PDT

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