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  •  Well...doesn't WI, MN, MI, etc. have indigenous (2+ / 0-)
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    survivalist platoons and militia...who've all probably been waiting for such dire days?  Such groups do go back a few decades in the upper midwest.  I recall taking Red Cross Life Saving class at the UW from an ex-marine 'Nam vet.  He'd drive his Jeep to campus always loaded with his 'go bag', and had destinations mapped out all the way deep into Canada and who he'd be able to trust and hook up with along the way.  And that was decades ago when the biggest worry was Ruskies or Chinese launching ICBM nukes at every medium sized city and up.  And while a majority of survivalists might visibly be males, there are women and whole families involved, probably entire churches.

    I'm pretty sure taking that life saving (mini-survivalist) class coincided with some of my premature hair loss...well, I feel better blaming him anyway.  We were taught quite a number of things that weren't covered by the normal Red Cross manual...the sort one might find in special operations manuals.  His presentations included gems like how to render a flailing drowning victim temporarily unconscious so as to have a safe tow back to shore or boat...and to do it so no one watching you will be the wiser.  

    Our 'final' was bringing up some of the UW's football linebackers, 275 to 300lb with very low bodyfat, all over 6' tall, from the bottom of a 20' diving pool...and they had been prompted to get a bit feisty within 5' from the surface...if we managed to get them that close within 30 seconds of trying. Truthfully, it was hard to hide smiles and exchanged looks upon seeing one 100lb 4'11" co-ed bringing up her large muscular victim, unconscious by the time it took her to get him up to within 8' of the surface, and earn her 'A' on her 'final'.  She said nothing at all about it and just headed off to the locker room after the guy came to, without really looking at anyone else in the class.  I'm not sure she cared about the grade at that point.

    When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

    by antirove on Wed Mar 21, 2012 at 11:15:42 PM PDT

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    •  ooh, useful self-defense move for rape situations! (0+ / 0-)

      Scenario: 100-lb woman is out walking, and is accosted by 200-lb. guy who clearly has intent to rape.  She makes a gesture like she's hugging him or otherwise expressing a willingness to go along with it, but then does the secret maneuver to render him unconscious long enough to either a) get away or b) yell for help or c) find her pistol and cellphone, using the former to deter him from escaping while using the latter to call the cops.  

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      by G2geek on Thu Mar 22, 2012 at 04:42:42 AM PDT

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      •  The football players did try to put a hug hold on (0+ / 0-)

        us, if they could, once we brought them up closer to the surface.  

        We were taught to recognize a choke hold, how to quickly grab and bend fingers to break that sort of desperate grasp...and "if necessary" to break a victim's fast clawing fingers, thumbs, and even toes to disrupt the holds. The broken digits could be splinted later on shore, when both are safe and alive. Although, they might not be immediately grateful.  The remainig air of a particularly difficult victim could be quickly pushed out with other moves, in order to gain compliance, and we were taught such a person could be quickly resuscitated if younger and if not, well, getting back alive was a primary concern.

        The small women was descending a bit slower than the rest of us in our group, probably unsure exactly how to approach (yes, we're supposed to approach from the rear, but hers was laying face-up flat on the pool floor--had some weights on).  I think she saw what was happening to those of us who were in a far bigger hurry, like me (then a fit 200lb 6' far less cautious male).  Three of these guys even had ankle and belt weights on...probably to help them weigh 300lbs like the others, to make the test fairer of course.

        Anyway, yes, an impulsive accosting by large male on smaller female can turn out differently  than he anticipates, if she is well-prepared, gets the chance to evaluate circumstances, and implement a sound plan.  Targeting the assailant where it takes little strength (but perhaps a bit of accuracy) to cause inhibiting pain may cause sufficient disorientation to forestall the attacker, at least that is plan A.  

        We were also taught things like taking a ring of sturdy keys in our swim suit pockets (sew them on if lacking them) when hopping into the water, since they could be used to inflict pain on sensitive pressure points if victims seemed desperate enough to take us down with them.  There were multiple unorthodox applications for rope tow bouys and towels as well.

        It was a useful education to realize that 'desperate' people caught in life-threatening situations, at risk of immediate drowning, can be quite deadly dangerous to help, especially if a well-intentioned soul is not anticipating the potential for far stronger than anticipated physical instinctive reactions of a 'victim'.

        When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

        by antirove on Thu Mar 22, 2012 at 01:10:28 PM PDT

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