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  •  Stabbing to dead is easy? (1+ / 0-)
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    Have you ever worked in hospital?
    Just go to the statistics and count the number of stabbing wounds compered to fatalities.

    Stabbing to kill is not that easy. How many stabbing assassinations have multiple stab wounds?

    Also players use razors and other slashing devices because they could not afford to spend time in jail without controlling their "stable". So they used things that police could not put charges on them

    And is COlombian the country is Colombia.

    •  FYI (5+ / 0-)

      1) nearly 2 decades as a state-certified medic, including a stint working out of Beekman Downtown Hospital.

      2) Many.  Some were targeted assassinations, other stabbing rages.

      3) You slice someone, and the PoPo can damn-well put attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon on you.
      Hell, in some precincts they'd even run your stable, while you vacation upstate.

      That said, you can ignore it all... Columbia was written, therefore one must invoke: "teh spellcheck fucktard rule".

      A man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything. ~ Malcolm X.

      by 43north on Fri Mar 23, 2012 at 10:44:30 AM PDT

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      •  Weapon charges (1+ / 0-)
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        I did not call you any names. It's not about grammar correction but about the name of a country and its people, some friends, that really get irked by the Columbian thing

        So as a medic you'll agree that a single  stabbing wound that lead to a fatality is a very low percentage.  

        •  So are shootings. (2+ / 0-)
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          theatre goon, ER Doc

          Shootings have less than a 10% fatality rate.  Not sure what the knife fatality rate is, I'll try to look it up.

          •  There is a difference though (0+ / 0-)

            When you mention shootings are you talking about impacts or just shoot outs?
            I can see that in all shoot out only 10% end in fatalities, but what is the relation to wounds.

            Then we could, if we had the data, check about calibers. On the edge/puncture weapons we could also look the sizes but because we are talking just about stabbings we have to disqualify a lot of edge weapons that cause slashing and impact wounds like machetes.
            Best stabbing weapon would be a short sword like the Roman gladii or a heavy spear, but we don't see many assaults with ancient weapons.

            •  Actual persons being shot. (1+ / 0-)
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              Iberian

              And I was off in in my stats.  I was going from a memory of approx. 100K firearms injuries/year, which is incorrect.

              According to the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/...

              Fatal Injury Reports

              Year - 2009
              Population - 307 million

              Firearm Unintentional - 554
              Firearm Violence related - 11,826 (does not include  suicides)
              Firearm Legal interventions - 333

              Cut/Pierce Unintentional - 125
              Cut/Pierce Violence related - 1,874 (does not include suicides)
              Cut/Pierce Legal interventions - 0

              Non-fatal Injury Reports

              Year - 2009
              Population - 307 million

              Firearms Unintentional - 18,610
              Total firearms injuries by violence - 48,158 (Includes criminal, defensive and self-harm)
              Assault only - 44,466
              Legal intervention - 679

              Cut/Pierce Unintentional - 1,997,752
              Total Cut/Pierce injuries by violence - 196,002 (Includes criminal, defensive and self-harm)
              Assault only - 103,778
              Legal intervention - 10,772

              So you seem to be correct in your basic assumption that intentional firearms injuries are more often fatal than intentional stab/cut injuries.  

              •  I thought so (1+ / 0-)
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                PavePusher

                knowing a little of the history of weapons and having been around ERs. Interestingly bullets also produce piercing wounds.

                The thing is most objects used in piercing attacks are really not designed to kill like small knifes, screwdrivers or scissors.

                Now if we were talking of past times and people carried real daggers and short swords I thinks the percentage of fatalities would grow.

                Also  most people have some kind of training with guns, and very little with knives.

                Thanks for the data

      •  If Iberian hadn't, I would have. (1+ / 0-)
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        Iberian
        That said, you can ignore it all... Columbia was written, therefore one must invoke: "teh spellcheck fucktard rule".

        "If I can't dance, then I don't want to be in your revolution"--Emma Goldman

        by ehrenfeucht games on Fri Mar 23, 2012 at 03:51:44 PM PDT

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    •  rec'd for this: (1+ / 0-)
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      Iberian
      And is COlombian the country is Colombia.
      It's a pet peeve of mine.

      "If I can't dance, then I don't want to be in your revolution"--Emma Goldman

      by ehrenfeucht games on Fri Mar 23, 2012 at 03:50:03 PM PDT

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