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  •  Most milk now seems to be Ultra-pastuerized (5+ / 0-)

    What is the difference from simple pastuerized? And should I care?

    •  ultra-pasteurized is (6+ / 0-)

      heated quite hot for a shorter period of time. Same net effect as heat = temperature x time. I assume it's more economical with our just in time production systems today.

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      by yuriwho on Sun Mar 25, 2012 at 07:47:29 PM PDT

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    •  To be honest... (8+ / 0-)

      ...I'm not very knowledgeable on the difference aside from what I can google.  The difference comes down to what temperature the milk is exposed to and for how long.  I got the table below from a USDA site ( )

      Temperature Time Pasteurization Type
      63ºC (145ºF) 30 minutes Vat Pasteurization
      72ºC (161ºF) 15 seconds High temperature short time Pasteurization
      89ºC (191ºF) 1.0 second Higher-Heat Shorter Time (HHST)
      90ºC (194ºF) 0.5 seconds Higher-Heat Shorter Time (HHST)
      94ºC (201ºF) 0.1 seconds Higher-Heat Shorter Time (HHST)
      96ºC (204ºF) 0.05 seconds Higher-Heat Shorter Time (HHST)
      100ºC (212ºF) 0.01 seconds Higher-Heat Shorter Time (HHST)
      138ºC (280ºF) 2.0 seconds Ultra Pasteurization (UP)
      Wikipedia says "High-temperature, short-time (HTST) pasteurized milk typically has a refrigerated shelf life of two to three weeks, whereas ultra-pasteurized milk can last much longer, sometimes two to three months."

      Where are you located?  My understanding was that ultra-high temperature pasteurization was relatively rare in the US.  My brother said when he was in Japan, most of the milk there was Ultra-pasteurized due to the fact it bad to brought in from long distance and needed the extended shelf life from UHT.

      The pasteurization I am most familiar with is the first, vat pasteurization, as that is what the home pasteurizer we had utilized.

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      by dsteffen on Sun Mar 25, 2012 at 08:04:39 PM PDT

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      •  one difference in ultra-pasteurized milk & cream (7+ / 0-)

        Around here a good deal of the cream is marked as ultra-pasteuried. Ultra-pasteurized milk seems less common. I would rather producers (and regulators) stay with standard (vat) pasteurization, as the ultra pasteurization changes some the milk's qualities that can get in the way of certain applications in cooking. I rarely buy ricotta cheese any longer, opting to make a similar fresh cheese myself for the recipes that use it. It tastes better, is fun and easy (like a little science experiment on your stove top), and never has gums or other additives found in a number of ricotta brands in the supermarket. But if you use ultra-pasturized milk and cream, it fails to curdle and you end up with very little, if any, cheese. It's not hard to get the non-ultra-pasteurized cream, one just needs to be observant of labels.

    •  Ultra pasteurized (2+ / 0-)
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      wonderful world, G2geek

      is hotter, shorter heat. The milk will last longer without spoiling. Often it's used for cream and for organic milk, to have a longer shelf life.

      Many people say it damages a bit more of the nutrients in the milk as well.

      Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

      by elfling on Sun Mar 25, 2012 at 11:08:04 PM PDT

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      •  I think it's most organic milk (1+ / 0-)
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        I know that's part of the reason why I buy it.

        It just lasts longer, and I don't drink that much milk. Cook with it, mostly, or use it for cappuccino.

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