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  •  Obviously you miss the point of this well (9+ / 0-)

    researched diary about the history of milk and the dangers over that historical period to consumers of milk that was not handled properly due to ignorance of proper sanitary measures and the efforts of government to help rectify this condition through intelligent regulation.  But you exemplify ignorance quite well, bravo to you.

    "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." - John F. Kennedy

    by helpImdrowning on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 04:58:05 AM PDT

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    •  And YOU missed MY point (1+ / 0-)
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      Which is that the only person who should be able to make the decision about what they consume is THAT PERSON.  The information should be provided, definitely.  But if you ban everything that might make someone sick, then the only thing left would be... vitamin supplements, maybe?  Don't pretend people never get sick from supermarket food!  228 million recalled eggs are nothing to sneeze at (actually, they may be).

      •  Sorry, that's an impossible pipe dream (4+ / 0-)
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        Big Ag won't LET you make an informed decision. They hide, distort and lie about information all the damn time.

        Take the specific issue of milk. Dairies, farmers' cooperatives, and other companies have started selling only milk that has not been produced with the "assistance" of artificial growth hormones, and pointedly labeling their product as growth hormone free. Big Ag first tried to get the labeling banned - and when that failed, rammed through a mandatory "disclaimer" that there was no difference between milk with or without growth hormones.

        Objective tests have shown that milk produced without the artificial hormones IS healthier (has less pus and fewer suspect microorganisms) - but you'd never know that from Big Ag.

        (For the record: Costco's Kirkland label sells only growth hormone free milk. So does a local dairy cooperative called "Shenandoah's Pride". I asked Turkey Hill, and they said they don't require hormone-free, but do test extensively and dump any milk that's substandard.)

        If it's
        Not your body,
        Then it's
        Not your choice
        And it's
        None of your damn business!

        by TheOtherMaven on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 09:32:35 AM PDT

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      •  raw milk is a public health hazard (1+ / 0-)
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        it's not about banning things that might make someone sick.  It's about public health professionals determining how to make things better.

        Regulation just isn't that slippery a slope.  In part, it's because people like you will push back against particularly onerous suggested regulations, keeping what is enacted 'mainstream'.

        Global warming is the inconvenient truth, nuclear power is the inconvenient alternative.

        by eigenlambda on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 09:29:30 PM PDT

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