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  •  My only experience with guns (3+ / 0-)
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    was at a YMCA summer camp, where we were shooting .22 rifles at targets.

    The gun safety stuff was quite similar to the bow&arrow training, but it was essentially just a 15 minute talk plus supervision of the kids & collecting guns etc afterwards.

    I'm urban,  my family didn't hunt, didn't target shoot and didn't have any police or military members when I was growing up.   I didn't have any more reason to know about guns than I need to know about how to work a tractor, milk a cow or fly an airplane.

    I was a pretty typical urban/suburban white kid.  There are lots of people like that.

    I suspect if one of my friends had a lot of guns in the house and my Mom heard about it, she'd have tried to get me some kind of safety training.  But it didn't happen.

    By contrast, I was swimming almost as soon as I could walk.  Everyone in my family took that very seriously as a safety thing, and also pool memberships were a very inexpensive way to do summer childcare (send the kids to swim most of the day, supervised by lifeguards etc).   I also learned to drive a stick as an essential part of learning how to drive.   I've run into a lot of adults that never learned either, and it was probably as strange to me as lack of gun education in my childhood is to people comfortable and familiar with guns.

    •  Yep, exactly. We just have to deal with the facts (1+ / 0-)
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      43north

      that America loves firearms and that there are somewhere around 250,000,000 of them in our hands and proceed from there.

      And possibly of no interest to you, but your YMCA class sounds like it was probably more dangerous than no class at all. I see people doing the most astonishingly stupid things at the range every time I go there, and it all stems from the all to casual attitude that many owners have about the their weapons.

      Too many movies, not nearly enough reality.

      "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

      by Greyhound on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 02:02:18 PM PDT

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      •  They focused on the basics (2+ / 0-)
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        1.  The gun is always loaded
        2.  Don't point the gun at people
        3.  Make sure everyone has put down their guns before sending someone out to collect targets and put out new ones

        The adults did all the loading/cleaning/etc of the rifles, probably to prevent accidents.   There was zero tolerance for breaking any of the simple rules (first infraction, the person was gone, and not allowed to return)

        It wasn't a gun class as such.  It was just an activity, like learning how to paddle a Canoe without tipping it over.  Like I said, it was handled in a similar way to the archery activity.   ("This activity uses a dangerous tool to do something fun.  Here is how to do it without getting anyone hurt.")

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