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  •  Was there some doubt about this? (10+ / 0-)

    An ultra-conservative group pushing wedge issues?  No news there.  We Dems push the War on Women as a wedge issue to split off Independent women voters.  It may be unseemly to be caught writing it down, but it isn't news.

    The 'black blogger' project is interesting.  Did they do it? Whom did they pay?  Without that knowledge this doesn't mean much.

    The slush fund may be the important item. It gives those states investigating their evasion of disclosure rules something that might be useful.

    NOM, for all their preposterous big talk, is a marginal orgaization that is losing ground.  We can't link any of this to the GOP, which can simply disavow any connection to anything NOM says or does.

    By all means we should use NOM's grand plan against them, but I don't see this as a smoking gun, never mind justification for a RICO prosecution.  This is a group whose grand plan is failing.  Marriage equality is gaining favor across the country.  Why advocate for making them a martyr?

    •  Why advocate for the RICO thing? (11+ / 0-)

      Because it's a pipe dream it will never happen. Statistics show 0.0% of RICO investigations are begun at the behest of Daily Kos writers.

      It's like hoping a CNN reporter will  ask, "Isn't it incredibly sleazy to pit one minority group against another, 'fanning flames of hostility' between them? Did you consider the effect fomenting all that hostility to gays has on gay black people?"

      The fact does remain NOM gets investigated in every state they operate in. They get no substantial penalties, ignore court orders, and move on to do the same thing in another state.

      They really should be held accountable for their lawbreaking by someone. For the integrity of the system.

      "Good God, Lemon! What happened to you in childhood to make you believe people are good?"--Jack Donaghy

      by Scott Wooledge on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 07:52:11 AM PDT

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    •  There was never any doubt about it at all (2+ / 0-)
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      The difference is we now have it all in print, in NOM's very own hate-filled words.

      •  There's always doubt (3+ / 0-)
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        Now we have empirical evidence, the real smoking gun documentation.

        I am sure there will STILL be doubters. Just as their are still birthers, climate change and evolution deniers.

        For some belief will always trump evidence.

        "Good God, Lemon! What happened to you in childhood to make you believe people are good?"--Jack Donaghy

        by Scott Wooledge on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 08:44:21 AM PDT

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        •  We should not be overconfident about this (1+ / 0-)
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          Back in the late 60's and early 70's, following the pioneering civil right legislative effort, the Republican Party came up with the "Southern Strategy." It was no secret; it was even reported on at the time. Despite the transparent manipulation involved in it, the Southern Strategy worked very well (and continues to do so).

    •  If they paid (1+ / 0-)
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      black conservative bloggers, they wasted their money on preaching to the choir. In any case, if they did make these payouts, I damn sure want to know who got them.

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