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  •  did you see lawrence o'donnell tonight? (4+ / 0-)
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    interviewing zimmerman's friend, oliver?

    wheeeeeh-boy! what a smack down!  it was art.  art!

    but the best part was at the very very beginning of the tape, when o'donnell said that the chief homicide detective, the guy who wanted a manslaughter arrest the night of the murder, told o'donnell that he is very hopeful about the new second investigation that is now ongoing and that he looks forward to the truth coming out.

    for the first time, i feel a little hopeful about justice for trayvon.

    http://www.mediaite.com/...

    Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounding yourself with a-holes - William Gibson.

    by doesnotworkorplaywellwithothers on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 09:44:00 PM PDT

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    •  Sad to see a progressive stooping to such tactics (0+ / 0-)

      First, I'm on your side.  I think we know pretty much what happened that night.  But it still needs to be clarified dispassionately and objectively.  THAT's what a truly devastating take-down looks like.

      O'Donnell obviously wasn't interested in the truth but only in what supports HIS narrative and in using any cheap rhetorical trick, down to and including just talking over the other person, to discredit anyone who questions it.  Next time he'll probably pull a Hannity and turn off the guest's microphone.   He did a great impersonation of Hannity in this interview.  Hard to see any difference at all between them on this occasion.

      At first it was hard to believe Charles Blow is, as introduced, a journalist for the NYT but then I saw he's actually not a reporter, just an Op-Ed columnist, which makes more sense.  His snittiness and manipulativeness, and his lack of sophistication in either, did not reflect at all well on the NYT.

      Neither of them was trying to get at the truth and both of them shed more heat than light.  O'Donnell seemed to be playing the character of country trial lawyer, hardly a credit to the program or a conduit to truth.  

      You don't have to believe a guest, at least not all that a guest says, just because you give them a fair shake.

      This kind of interview is a disservice to the cause.  It just makes progressives look like the flip side of Fox News -- which is exactly the narrative Fox tries so hard to establish.  Why play into such hands?

      Thank God there's still NPR.  It may still not be big-world journalism all the time, but it's the best we've got.

      At least MSNBC has Rachel.

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      Ideology is when you know the answers before you know the questions.
      It is what grows into empty spaces where intelligence has died.

      by Alden on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 09:21:32 AM PDT

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      •  And Joe Oliver deserves some credit (0+ / 0-)

        Sure he went to some squirm-worthy stretches in his defense, but at least he conducted himself like an adult, which is more than one can say for O'Donnell or especially Blow.

        It's just not that entertaining to see supposedly seriously people in a good cause conduct themselves like the professional distorters.

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        Ideology is when you know the answers before you know the questions.
        It is what grows into empty spaces where intelligence has died.

        by Alden on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 09:26:11 AM PDT

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      •  Oh, please. n/t (1+ / 0-)

        "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

        by rubyr on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 09:55:54 AM PDT

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      •  i disagree. and a columnist is (0+ / 0-)

        most certainly also a journalist.

        i'm extremely pleased they took him down; he deserved it and the narrative joe the friend was pushing needed to be stopped in its tracks.  they did that and in doing so did a great service. they got him to say exactly what he was doing, and they sent a signal that the american public is not stupid.

        Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounding yourself with a-holes - William Gibson.

        by doesnotworkorplaywellwithothers on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 10:27:17 AM PDT

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        •  But they didn't actually take him down (0+ / 0-)

          However, I can see that you're an adherent of the myth of unipolar truth and will be unable to recognize that.  

          This is not football.  It's justice.  And tragedy.  Prosecutorial distortion doesn't belong here.

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          Ideology is when you know the answers before you know the questions.
          It is what grows into empty spaces where intelligence has died.

          by Alden on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 03:37:07 PM PDT

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    •  Yeah, I saw it. A little truth on the TV. (0+ / 0-)

      Thanks for the link.

      "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

      by rubyr on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 09:54:34 AM PDT

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