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  •  Wind turbines don't need rare earths (6+ / 0-)

    They may want them, but they don't need them.

    "11 dimensional chess" is a clever form of using magical thinking to obfuscate the obvious.

    by Zinman on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 10:06:09 PM PDT

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    •  Also, waterwheels and windmills (1+ / 0-)
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      have been generating power for ages. Mechanical, not electrical, power, that is.

      Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

      by Simplify on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 11:34:33 PM PDT

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    •  "Want vs need" (0+ / 0-)

      Hmmmm.

      The rare earths, as I understand it, are for the magnets used in electricity generation.  More powerful magnets = more electricity.

      Want vs need, then, becomes a matter of large-scale feasibility: how much electricity can you get out of how many wind turbines on how much land at what cost?

      I don't even pretend to know the answer to that one, but I'm sure some people do.

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      by dinotrac on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 04:45:57 AM PDT

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