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  •  Any evidence to support that theory? n/t (0+ / 0-)

    Children have imaginary friends, adults have god.

    by soros on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:20:45 PM PDT

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    •  There's plenty, but let's take the word... (11+ / 0-)

      ...of the guys who authored the Florida law:

      [Durell] Peaden and [Dennis] Baxley, R-Ocala, say their law is a self-defense act. It says law-abiding people have no duty to retreat from an attacker and can meet "force with force." Nowhere does it say that a person has a right to confront another.

      The 911 tapes strongly suggest Zimmerman overstepped his bounds, they say, when the Sanford neighborhood crime-watch captain said he was following Trayvon and appeared to ignore a police request to stay away.

      "The guy lost his defense right then," said Peaden. “When he said 'I’m following him,' he lost his defense."...

      [Baxley] stressed over and over again that "there’s nothing in this statute that authorizes people to pursue and confront people."

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:32:28 PM PDT

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    •  Which part do you think is a theory? (0+ / 0-)

      The statutes are available at the Florida state legislature website.  Zimmerman was in pursuit of Trayvon Martin.

      This law attempts to take pre-existing law which allowed the use of deadly force in self defense against an intruder invading your home, dwelling or vehicle and expand it to any other location where the person using self defense had a right to be.  

      The law assumes that the two parties involved in any situation are readily identifiable as self defender and attacker.  How could Zimmerman claim that he was acting in self defense?  By definition, there's a contradiction with the 9-1-1 tape that shows he was pursuing Trayvon Martin.  That puts him in the role of the aggressor vs the other person.   Martin also had an equal right to be in the location, and if he perceived that he was being attacked, he had the right to use deadly force against Zimmerman.  (The law provided definitions so that it clear that Martin's status as an invited guest of his father, he qualifies as having a right to be inside the gates.)  

      "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln

      by leftreborn on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:39:58 PM PDT

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