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  •  I was making an important point, not insulting (3+ / 0-)

    Look Gorette, her comment was framed as a rebuttal to the diary. If she were just relating her direct observations that's one thing, but that wasn't what was going on here. It was framed as a rebuttal. I was pointing out correctly that it is not.

    Moreover, you say "To make generalizations from one's direct observations is a smart and reasonable thing to do." No, it isn't, unless you have some good reason to believe that your observations are representative of what you haven't observed, in order to "generalize" your particular observations. Without such a reason, it's just a logical fallacy. And making a logical fallacy is neither smart nor reasonable.

    •  My comment was a rebuttal to the diary (2+ / 0-)

      only in the sense that I was rebutting that my own fears result from misinformation. They result from my life.

      We decided to move the center farther to the right by starting the whole debate from a far-right position to begin with. - Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay

      by denise b on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 07:33:36 PM PDT

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      •  have you lived in a poor-drug ridden white area? (0+ / 0-)

        Once you say "in the inner city",  I'm betting that white poverty lives somewhere else .

        And when you live in a poor white neighbhorhood,  the drug dealers, the addicts, the people who leave their kids running wild, the wife-beaters, and the killers will be white.

        There was a time when those people were called Irish, later Italians.  Now my experience is they don't live in inner cities, at least not in the Northeast.

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        by sayitaintso on Fri Mar 30, 2012 at 06:40:07 AM PDT

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        •  what is your point? (1+ / 0-)
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          if you go back in time other races had higher rates of violent crime?  I don't think anyone would disagree with that.  But the FACT and STATISTICS and REALITY show that black males commit violent crimes at a higher rate in the US.  Now as to why most believe its chronic joblessness and barricades to upward mobility like previous incarcerations.  

          So I would agree that there are reasons why the rate is higher but to deny the rate of violent crime by black males is higher is RIDICULOUS and its a flat out lie.

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