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  •  i think it also has much to do with the difference (17+ / 0-)

    in how we define freedom here.

    Americans, typically, have a more positive view of freedom:

    I should have the freedom to own a gun.
    Europeans, typically, have a more negative definition of freedom:
    I should have freedom from need. Maybe even, our society should have freedom from need.
    I think a good part of the battle is how we define freedom. We fight for for the right to....  do something in the US.

    Do we fight for the freedom from hunger, or unemployment, etc?

    •  FDR was great (4+ / 0-)

      at redefining freedom, so was MLK. FDR's 4Freedoms illustrated by Rockwell hung in my leftist grandmothers dining room, so did pictures of Paul Robeson and FDR. The left was not centrist or moderate in the thirties. We've always had a conflict of right /left, liberal /conservative in our country.

      What freaks me out is that we no longer do. The RW's get's more and more extreme but their is no counter to it. No political means to check the fascist anti-democratic drift  Revisionist Democratic history now calls the social progress made in the 60's and in the New Deal, too extreme and not possible in the NWO.          

      •  Absolutely, FDR did define freedom both (3+ / 0-)
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        positively and negatively.

        The Four Freedoms were goals articulated by US President Franklin D. Roosevelt on January 6, 1941. In an address known as the Four Freedoms speech (technically the 1941 State of the Union address), he proposed four fundamental freedoms that people "everywhere in the world" ought to enjoy:

            Freedom of speech and expression
            Freedom of worship
            Freedom from want
            Freedom from fear

        His inclusion of the latter two freedoms went beyond the traditional US Constitutional values protected by its First Amendment, and endorsed a right to economic security and an internationalist view of foreign policy. They also anticipated what would become known decades later as the "human security" paradigm in social science and economic development.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        If I had more time, I would have found a better source; but what is important is his view on human security and freedoms both positive and negative.

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