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  •  I don't agree. (4+ / 0-)
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    chuckvw, aliasalias, 0wn, Kurt Sperry

    I'm not going to say much about the misuse of "right-left" distinctions here except to argue that tossing a few crumbs to the public for the sake of assuring public quietism, while moving radically toward an agenda intended to prop up the profit rate in an era of declining global growth, does not count as a move toward a more egalitarian society.

    I'm not saying that the ACA or Dodd-Frank or the Stimulus were shining models of progressive legislation.  But were they a move away from the anti-regulatory, less government path we had barreling down for the previous few decades?  Absolutely.
    Here the reader is to buy into the myth that the Reagan Revolution was "anti-regulatory" and "less government."  This was true only in the advertising pitch.  We received more regulation and more government for the sake of assuring corporate profit.
    Similarly, moving the country back toward the left will also take a decades-long effort which many of us may not live to see come to fruition
    This is as much an accounting error as those statistics which purport to show an "improving jobs situation."  Since the "Left" in this country is no longer genuine, its actual numbers can no longer be assessed with any degree of accuracy.  If it were to renounce its bogus claims to being a "Left," you'd see a broad, genuine Left spring up almost overnight, much as Occupy sprung up on a global scale in three or four months.

    "I've seen the flame of hope among the hopeless/ And that was truly the biggest heartbreak of all" -- Bruce Cockburn

    by Cassiodorus on Fri Mar 30, 2012 at 11:42:36 AM PDT

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    •  How many other HCR bills have been passed? (0+ / 0-)

      Zero.

      How many people will be affected by the PPACA?

      About 30 million.

      You can come up with all of the fantasies about how the Left is really really ready to spring up like Occupy and transform the world, my favorite being the paging of the cult of the presidency that they just need the right leader, but in the end, you have to settle for reality.

      How'd that IL-10 primary work out for the True Progressives? Not well?

      It's Illinois, a blue state. You can't even win a progressive primary challenge before Occupy completely wanes.

      •  You made a prediction. (1+ / 0-)
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        chuckvw

        Then you wanted to shift topics and "settle for reality."

        The reality was that it didn't take very long for the Arab Spring to notch some victories, and it didn't take long for Occupy to get started.

        Go ahead, wait a few decades.

        "I've seen the flame of hope among the hopeless/ And that was truly the biggest heartbreak of all" -- Bruce Cockburn

        by Cassiodorus on Fri Mar 30, 2012 at 12:46:29 PM PDT

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        •  Everybody agrees with you (1+ / 0-)
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          They just don't vote that way, or join your movement, or take action, or respond in polls.

          And it's all Obama's fault. If he would just bully pulpit harder.

          Then maybe Occupy wouldn't have faded to an afterthought within 6 months.

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