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  •  very interesting question (0+ / 0-)

    1. obviously some (e.g. TVA, BPA, WAPA) are actually the feds.

    2. all federal agencies procure power through contracts with the local utility in accordance with state laws.

    3. Without research, I would guess that a loan guarantee would count as a federal contract.

    Without making a blanket statement that all electric utilities are fed contractors, I would say that many certainly are.

    What is your opinion?

    Causation was, is, and ever shall be a slippery bitch, so we're best sticking with noting the facts

    by jam on Wed Apr 04, 2012 at 05:12:41 AM PDT

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    •  Good and bad points (1+ / 0-)
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      obviously some (e.g. TVA, BPA, WAPA) are actually the feds.
      Yes, of course, and I had the opportunity to cite one of TVA's projects (currently undergoing) to build/finish nuclear plants, but I didn't, did I?

      No, I realize that TVA is a federal government entity and thus doesn't represent the private market.

      all federal agencies procure power through contracts with the local utility in accordance with state laws.
      That makes the federal agency a customer. That doesn't mean that the utility is a contractor.

      If I hire someone to do some work on my house, I consider him or her to be a contractor. When I pay my gas bill each month, I don't consider the gas company to be a contractor, even though both entities provide services to me through contracts.

      Without research, I would guess that a loan guarantee would count as a federal contract.
      Well, a loan guarantee, I suppose, is an example of a contract, in that it is a legal agreement between two entities. However, that is very different situation than the utility being a contractor.

      For example, how many federal contractors do you know who have to pay rather large fees upfront to earn the contract and have absolutely zero obligations to the government, other than not going bankrupt.

      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
      -- Albert Einstein

      by bryfry on Wed Apr 04, 2012 at 06:10:23 AM PDT

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      •  (I'm not even sure what the point of this (0+ / 0-)

        discussion is) but it is interesting...

        You and I personally distinguish between contractor and customer but do the feds?

        Causation was, is, and ever shall be a slippery bitch, so we're best sticking with noting the facts

        by jam on Wed Apr 04, 2012 at 07:00:16 AM PDT

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