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  •  so do what we do for any other endangered species (9+ / 0-)

    Don't kill off the remaining specimens.  

    Encourage them to be fruitful and multiply.

    "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

    by G2geek on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 10:31:14 PM PDT

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    •  The problem with that is the only habitat in which (9+ / 0-)

      they are safe happens to be the areas dominated by liberals.  Rhode Island traded in Lincoln Chafee who is easily a moderate, if not liberal Republican for Sheldon Whitehouse, who is usually a rather liberal Democrat.

      If you want the moderates to exist, both parties need to split up and shed members so you end up with a Moderate Republican party (composed of former Republicans and "moderate" Democrats), a Liberal Democratic party and a Christian Identity party (composed of the rightwing hate groups, militia, and teaparty members).

      •  yes, that would be a good idea IF and only if... (6+ / 0-)

        ... it could be done in a thorough manner.

        For example a 4-way split:

        Moderate Ds, Left Ds, Moderate Rs, Right Rs.

        Or a three-way split:

        Rs (right), Moderates, Ds (left).

        Or some other combination of reformulated parties that includes splitting off the hard-right Rs from the moderate Rs.

        The risk of all of this is ending up with a parliamentary situation where an extreme-right party is "needed" by moderates to form a governing coalition.  Then the extremists could play the Lieberman game all over again, threatening to break the coalition if they don't get what they want.

        So realistically it keeps coming back to the convergent formula of more better Democrats, which means capturing the party machinery starting at the bottom, and working up from local to state to national offices.  

        The extreme-right Rs already did this with great success, so it's not as if it's an untested model.  All we have to do is roll up our sleeves and go to work on it.  

        "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

        by G2geek on Tue Apr 03, 2012 at 03:39:33 AM PDT

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        •  I see a different possibility (3+ / 0-)
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          As the Repugs become more BSC, the more rational Republicans (yes, there are quite a few) may gravitate toward the Democratic Party, thus making it more conservative. The progressive wing could eventually splinter and form a left-leaning party. Thus we will have the wing-nut arty, the moderate Democratic Party, made up of folks like Clinton, Obama and moderate Republicans, and a progressive party.

          On the other hand, sometimes I see the power of money becoming so dominant that the entire political discourse may continue to shift even more in a rightward direction.

          A proud member of the Professional Left since 1967.

          by slatsg on Tue Apr 03, 2012 at 07:25:36 AM PDT

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      •  Chafee voted with the liberal wing (1+ / 0-)
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        of the Democratic Party on biggies such as the invasion of Iraq and the Bush tax cuts.  Therefore, not sure where you're getting that he's like a "moderate" Democrat.

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