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  •  The opposite is also true. (5+ / 0-)

    When "menial" tasks become lucrative, white men flock in and elbow out everyone else. Conversely, when a job that has prestige and social standing sees stagnant remuneration, white men run from such positions as if their asses were on fire. That's why fewer and fewer white men are becoming veterinarians.

    Let's go back to E Pluribus Unum

    by hazzcon on Tue Apr 03, 2012 at 07:09:48 AM PDT

    •  Interesting (3+ / 0-)

      I did not realize that the veterinary profession had suffered income stagnation.

      •  It is a big problem in rural areas (4+ / 0-)
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        because there is no money to be made in large-animal care. Most veterinary school graduates are women and most are specializing in companion animal care because that's where the money is (there are many people who will spend thousands of dollars prolonging the life of a geriatric cat by a few months.

        •  Well, I can attest that companion animal care is (5+ / 0-)
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          not nearly as lucrative as it once was, or as lucrative as most people think it is. Running an animal hospital is astronomically expensive when compared to what most people are willing or able to pay for care. I find it interesting that when male veterinarians realized their incomes were stagnating, they did a "study" and one of their conclusions was that veterinary income was stagnating because more women were becoming veterinarians (implying that child-bearing and rearing adversley affect income). These dumbasses didn't realize that declining income caused the upswing in female proportionality, not the other way around. I think the interesting (and salient to this diary) point is that when faced with declining incomes, white men just pick up and leave, going to where the money is, but not before delivering an unsubtle jab at their female colleagues. I wonder how many white male former veterinarians are caddying on the PGA tour? (See how I tied it all together there?)

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          by hazzcon on Tue Apr 03, 2012 at 07:56:40 AM PDT

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          •  Other occupations where the pay dropped as (5+ / 0-)
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            women entered are nursing, bank clerking and elementary school teaching.

            Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

            by Wee Mama on Tue Apr 03, 2012 at 08:04:06 AM PDT

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            •  You bring up a good point- (2+ / 0-)
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              some of these occupations had declining incomes before they were dominated by women, but it is also possible that, as women began entering these fields (for whatever reason), they were simply paid less than men because of the prevailing idiocy that "women don't need to make as much as men because the man has to be the main breadwinner" or somesuch horseshit. All of these scenarios have one common thread- Its good to be a white male in America!

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              by hazzcon on Tue Apr 03, 2012 at 08:09:08 AM PDT

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            •  And medical doctors (1+ / 0-)
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              Most doctors were sole practioners or in a small partnership.  Now the typical GP works for a health care company.  It's still a good salary... but it's a salary.  It's no longer a business.  And the income for them has gone down.

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              by madhaus on Tue Apr 03, 2012 at 12:54:56 PM PDT

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          •  And yet, in small animal veterinary care, (1+ / 0-)
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            Every cardiologist, radiologist, surgeon, dentist,  neurologist and dermatologist I've ever met (which unfortunately is quite a lot, sigh) has been male.

            General practioners, internists and ER vets tend to be women. Internists can charge good money. The others, not so much.

            The specialties in small animal care is where the money tends to be.

            © grover


            So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

            by grover on Tue Apr 03, 2012 at 12:59:10 PM PDT

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