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  •  Yes, precisely. (2+ / 0-)
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    420 forever, Paolo

    That's where I drew the line, too.

    Barack Obama: So morally bankrupt that he thinks people who tortured other people to death should get a pass. Likes to prosecute whistleblowers and pot smokers, though.

    by expatjourno on Wed Apr 04, 2012 at 02:55:10 PM PDT

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    •  hey expatjourno (1+ / 0-)
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      great (though tragic) sig. Sums it all up, alas.

      She said that she was working for the ABC News
      It was as much of the alphabet as she knew how to use

      by Paolo on Thu Apr 05, 2012 at 01:07:01 AM PDT

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      •  It is really tragic, isn't it? (2+ / 0-)
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        Paolo, 420 forever

        The only thing we really needed was a return to the pre-Bush respect for the Constitution and the rule of law.

        A lot of other things would have been nice, like single-payer, an immediate end to the Iraq war, an end to paperless voting, campaign finance reform, action on  climate change, etc, etc, etc.

        But the bare minimum was a return to the pre-Bush respect for the Constitution and the rule of law. And Obama has utterly failed at that. Instead, he has just kept bulldozing.

        Barack Obama: So morally bankrupt that he thinks people who tortured other people to death should get a pass. Likes to prosecute whistleblowers and pot smokers, though.

        by expatjourno on Thu Apr 05, 2012 at 02:55:00 AM PDT

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        •  the bare minimum... (2+ / 0-)
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          expatjourno, 420 forever

          and was that asking for too much?

          The rule of law (Mr Constitutional Professor, remember?) and prosecution of the war criminals. A basic single payer health care scheme would have been a bonus. (Remember when he promised all the negotiations "would be on C-SPAN"? And then denied he ever promised such a thing?)

          Instead "Mr Transparent Government" (as you obviously know) is anything but, BushCo criminals get off scot free ("Time to look forward") and there are now more illegal wars going on than during Bush's era.

          I remember tears in my eyes as I watched the Obama inauguration in the wee hours in a Tokyo hotel on my laptop. The only tears now for Obama are ones of rage.

          The best case scenario is that he's a spineless incompetent completely out of his depth in modern politics. The alternative is that he is a corporate, military industrial complex puppet and the whole campaign was a hoax. Either way we're screwed.

          She said that she was working for the ABC News
          It was as much of the alphabet as she knew how to use

          by Paolo on Thu Apr 05, 2012 at 11:04:25 AM PDT

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