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  •  Great work, Armando (28+ / 0-)

    Exactly, wdrath.  If we don't hold EVERY republican candidate's feet to the fire on Medicare and Social Security, we will have failed in this campaign.  The press won't do it -- 1% and lazy, and just as incurious about public policy as Bush 43 -- but it has to be done.

    All it takes is security in your own civil rights to make you complacent.

    by Dave in Northridge on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 08:08:31 AM PDT

    •  Yes (12+ / 0-)

      what are the political "limiting principles" to attacks on Medicare and Social Security?

      The ACA case is very much about that imo.

      Some would argue that the "taxing power" is different. It is not.

      •  Medicare and Social Security (5+ / 0-)

        are extremely good government programs which the federal government operates and which provide badly needed services directly to the American people. They do not go through any local intermediary government agency to do this, so they strengthen the federal government and weaken the state and local governments.

        The conservatives are frightened people who live by rural American values and expect slow, even glacial social changes. The state and local governments represent the local wealthy and upper middle classes (the winners in the American culture and economy of the past) and they will lose when American move to the diverse and better educated cities to get better jobs. Those moneyed elites are funding conservative politicians who promise the crowds that they will stop all the changes simply by getting the federal government out of their lives.

        That means that Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, and the Department of Education all have to be abolished. All of those threaten the local wealthy families who run the various states and who (collectively) elect most of the members of the US Senate.

        Since the ACA is a massive increase in the services that the federal government will provide to individual Americans, it too must be killed if conservatism is to survive in American politics.  The problems with the ACA are not that it won't work (in spite of the Rube Goldberg nature of the bill) - the problems are that it WILL work! By providing an essential service from the federal government the feds become more important to everyone.

        The result is that the American population will be less likely to defer to the rich family that runs the local town or county. The kid will have to be competent before becoming Mayor. It will no longer be enough just to come from the powerful local family as Paul Ryan does

        Competence before being hired is an industrial value. Coming from a well-known powerful family is a rural value. That's a symptom of the cultural difference. We are right now it the major battle of the culture war.

        Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

        by Rick B on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 10:20:23 AM PDT

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